A lift kit for Jero...

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:24
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Hi all Jo here, Mark wanted me to post about lift kits. (I am the typer he isn't!!)

Has anyone got any input, recommendations, do's and don't and even estimate pricing on giving Jero (1993 GLS) a 2-4inch lift.
We are based in the Browns Plains (Qld) area.

" yep..Pajero Country....."
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Reply By: roofscooter2 - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:37

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:37
hi jo,don't matter who types here we can't see how bad he is/me included lol,i tried lifting the f truck once put my back out. then tried the susuie x90 but found i did not have too as it was ok. there is a 4x4 shop in browns plains some where ,think it is 4x4 exteme.they mey be able to help.happy shopping ,bob.
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:49

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:49
cheers for that Bob, I'll have to check it out, it might be on the Browns Plains end where I don't normally go! Grand Plaza is the furtherest I go!!
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Reply By: Big Woody - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:49

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:49
Hi Jo and Mark,

Sorry I can't help with info about Pajero lift kits but have been watching your posts with interest.

C'mon, Mark, it's about time you showed your face here. (ha). We're not that scary are we? I don't type that fast either as I'm sure many others are in the same boat but we get there.

Look forward to meeting you online soon mate.

Brett
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:54

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:54
you are around Brett! you got quiet when I said Templegate!!!!
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Follow Up By: Big Woody - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:11

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:11
No I've been here waiting.

Actually you said to email you direct but there was no email address to mail to and then I knew you guy's were on Fraser Island so it was no use posting until you got back.

Glad to see you made it back safe and sound without too much drama. Great news about your fuel economy too. I have previously had a 95 Pajero with the 3.5 litre motor and it drank fuel so in my opinion you have the best model Pajero.

You have lot's of good day trips and weekenders from Brisbane so I am sure you are going to have fun. It is a shame I am not still down that way as we had many 4wd's amongst a huge group of churches on the Gold Coast and organised heaps of off-road camping trips. In fact it got so big where one weekend I led a group of 60 vehicles to Landcruiser Mountain Park and had a great time.

Catch up again soon.

Brett

email: (remove spaces) l i g h t h o u s e 6 9 @ b i g p o n d . c o m

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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:32

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:32
ah my email address was showing up to everyone when I first started posting, obviously it isn't now!!!
jarsofclay@optusnet.com.au

we don't know which club to join, there is the Gold Coast one where a few of you all are from, there is one in Beenleigh, (which is closer to home).
I say we'll just have to come along to the next Gold Coast meeting and go from there.
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:44

Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:44
Hi jo and mark
The next meeting of the Gold Coast 4WD Club is on the first Tuesday in February which is the 7th, starts at 8PM at Nerang Bi-Centenial Hall on Nerang Southport Rd, take Exit 69 from the motorway, head west under the motorway and the Community Centre is on your right. It's a fairly big complex, but drive around the carparks and you'll find the 4by's! Don't hesitate to come and introduce yourselves!
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:12

Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:12
Hey Brian
I mentioned to Mark about the meeting and said it as an 8pm start he said we'd have to pass on that one. He isn't overly keen on it being an 8pm start, the by the time it is finished and you drive 40 odd minutes home....then both of us being up early for work. If it was local and 8pm that wouldn't be so bad.. So it looks like I'll have to find a local one.
But thankyou anyway Brian!
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 18:29

Tuesday, Jan 17, 2006 at 18:29
No problem jo..... stay in touch ok?
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:02

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:02
Absolutely! We'll need someone's genuis mind!
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:35

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:35
The pajero runs a torsion bar front so you won't get a 4 inch lift out of it.
You will be lucky to get a 2 inch.
It depends on how much money you have.
If you are on a budget look at iron man.
If not the sky is the limit. You wil get as many replies on what is the best as there are as many people around. You need to find somebody you trust and go with it.
Stick with the big names and you will get reliability.
Either King or Lovell for springs, but others are good - ride pro, dobinsons, EFS
and as for shocks Gabriel foam cell are a good option on the cheaper side and it ranges right up to Bilsteins which is the best.
Grab a copy of the current 4x4 Australia as there is a write up on suspension in it, only a few brands though but will give you an idea.
There is always somebody around who has had a bad experience with one brand or another.

Cheers
120scruiser
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Follow Up By: kremmen - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 20:18

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 20:18
Go ironman,

for the price it is great. Its not pro comp rockcrawling, winch challenge, nor does it pretend to be. I have had ironman for 5k and hasn't missed a beat, and I have tried purposely to bash it and fault it but couldn't. The torsion bars provided with the kit are about 30% stronger than stock so you can crank them up for 2" lift above stock. Body seems a lot more stable too.

If you're after the W.ank factor, there are plenty of brands who will take your dough.
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 22:43

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 22:43
hahah too many dodgy mechanics have taken too much money out of us over the years...Will not let that happen with Jero, this is why it is great to be able to ask you all first!
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Reply By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:50

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:50
hey thanks 120scruiser...

I'll pick up the magazine tomorrow.

See if we don't ask we won't learn !!!!!!!!
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Reply By: roofscooter2 - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 18:28

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 18:28
jo/mark there is a 4x4 club at jimboomba called "just cruizin" my son,partner & her family are in it i am thinking about it.they are in the topic search left of the forum, you will also see the link to extreme 4x4 .com.au as well this is in find a club.bob.
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 19:57

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 19:57
hey Bob.

I don't suppose you know their exact web site addy? I looked through the clubs section earlier and saw them , they had their website listed as extreme4x4, but when I typed that in that just brought up the webiste for the 4by shop at Browns Plains.
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Reply By: roofscooter2 - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 20:13

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 20:13
jo when you click on the club logo for details you will see buisines details ph.nos. postal address and fax they would i think are the club contact details one is a 55 no for jimboomba/gold coast areas .
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 21:10

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 21:10
yeh it looks like the only contact is by phone or mail. they say there is a link on the extreme4x4 website but there isn't. Will have to call them then!
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Reply By: roofscooter2 - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 22:22

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 22:22
ironic it seems they are going over to fraser on australia day for the weekend for their part of cleanup oz day.
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Reply By: glenn_c - Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:55

Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:55
It is easy to do a 2 inch lift on a series 2 Pajero. Just replace the rear springs with 2 inch raised ones (I used Lovells $150pr). Windup the front torsen bars (may have to reindex them) and trim the upper bump stops. I also replaced the shocks EFS about $100 each. It is an easy job to do you can email me with questions if you want.
Regards Glenn
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:56

Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:56
I have a 2" lift in the rear with king springs and standard length shocks.
Go over 2" and you will need longer shocks. May also need to disconnect the rear sway bars in rough stuff to use the articulation. Only know of one person who has done that and not sure how they secured the sway bar while it was loose.

Can get 2" out of the front by winding up the torsion bars. 1" is more usual.
I have 1/2" to try and minimise the castor change with the higher rear end.
Problem is you loose downward travel distance, so when you droop one wheel over a ledge or bump, it will loose traction earlier. May need to look at a front locking diff in that case.
Winding up the front I think also gives you more positive camber, so you will need to pack in the top A arm to compensate. Try and go a little negative for road work or stay positive for dirt work. Negative improves handling and outside wear on the road, while positive gives better self centering. But if you are going 2" higher, bitumen or good dirt road handling are not what you are looking for :-)

Have heard of people shaving the front bump stops to get more travel, but the extra articulation can play havoc with the CV joints. They need to be recently greased and in good condition. I have pulled a drive shaft out of the front diff on the old NB (85) with old CV joints not giving enough. Shock length may also be an issue with shaved bump stops.

I will be interested in knowing how you go. Please repost your results.

Old old story, modify one thing, plently of other things to alter to make use of it.
Next I suppose will be lower lower range gears and bigger tyres???
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Follow Up By: jo and mark - Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:49

Monday, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:49
hahahaha! no the gears and tyres are staying just as they are!
We haven't yet found a money tree.....
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