Bike Rescue

Panic?

Mike Harding

you have forgotten the www. Cheers Rob

G'day Wayne,

from one troopy owner to another - copy the contents of the "Tag" box, and paste into this forum - then your pix will display

regards
Terry

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/Troopie52/01.jpg

Wayne

Ray,
No, by the time we got to him he had just climb up from the bike. I bet his mates who had passed us must have thought that when we told them that he had come off his bike.

Wayne

Makes you feel good being able to help someone out of the tripe doesn't it and who knows the situation may be reversed one day.

Mike - I understand what you are saying - but just as there are wanker 4wders, there are wanker riders - the majority of riders I associate with "do the right thing" and "have the right attitude". Being a rider, and 4wder, I'd hate to be typecast ;-) (not suggesting your doing that)

>Being a rider, and 4wder, I'd hate to be typecast ;-) (not
>suggesting your doing that)

Well, actually, Ivan that's exactly what I'm doing.

In my experience of dirt road bikers (and I've held a motor cycle licence in a number of countries since 1970) in Victoria most of the dirt road bikers I've come into contact with (and that's probably 100+) have been less than considerate. In fact most of them don't seem to give a toss for anyone else.

And I would still like to know why their bike's noise cannot be reduced? Or is it just that putting a decent exhaust system on them reduces their power? And means the owners would have to pay more cash to get a better bike? Cheaper to send 110dB into the bush perhaps?

Mike Harding

OK - I take the bait..

I'm happy to suggest that you are either over sensitive, or truly experiencing the low end of the gene pool (also seen in some 4wders).

In MY experience in a 4wd, I have never come across any inconsiderate riders - in fact have stopped and talked to many who are just out enjoying the bush - albeit in their own way..

In MY experience on a dirt bike, I have never come across a 4wder who has an issue - polite waves, quick chats on where they've been, how many in groups etc etc.

Very different experiences indeed - maybe there is a common denominator....

p.s I concede that many exhausts are too loud, and suggest that the reason is based on performance alone - I'm not defending it, so don't go looking for a debate on this one...

This is Sandy not Steve

"Had I wished to go into the bush, probably driving for 5 to 10 hours, to a place far away from other people and wished to listen to bloody 2 strokes engines revving their little hearts out for a large part of the day I would have gone to central Melbourne,
wouldn't I? "

Exchange the driving for walking and the reference to the noise from the bikes to 4wds and this is similar to the arguement a bushwalker was making in our local newspaper about 4wds ruining the peace and natural beauty of the bush!

As part of a group of friends who both 4wd and ride together I have had only one bad incident with a bike rider and two I can recall with 4wders.

We all have to go somewhere to enjoy the lifestyle we have chosen, which means that 4wders & dirt bike riders have to accept that we all want access to the more remote areas of this country. The last thing we want to do is start fighting each other for access. We have a big enough fight on our hands as it is!!

Ok I'm off the soapbox
Sandy

I'd say that some bikers at least associate noise with the adrenalin of riding.

Engine noise is used to promote motorsports. Similarly there are a few car drivers who like a booming exhaust (and boom boom speakers).

Tampering with exhausts or fitting an aftermarket (louder) exhaust is seen by some riders as almost a necessity when the bike is used off-road. Noise is associated with 'grunt' and macho. That is how it is marketed.

My 30 something mild-mannered neighbour and his missus have a couple of noisy, smoky, fire breathing bikes for bush roads. If you ask him, he will tell you that these brightly painted, noisy bikes are part of the scene.

Undue noise is a very divisive issue in the community and I think the time is fast approaching when Transport inspectors and police will be required to do more roadside machinery checks at or near popular offroad destinations.

It will be like recreational boating where these days it is not uncommon to be stopped by water police and fishing inspectors for spot checks.

I rode bikes too, but not so much in the last 5 years.

To be honest, many trail bikes are noisy and this has to do with the revs as well as the exhaust.

As I isuggested above, I reckon that quite a few blokes like a bit of noise and drama when riding off-road and on bush tracks.

It is easily possible to mute the exhaust and not lose power (which is what Mike Harding is asking) but this is not done because noise is associated with the exhilaration (read hype) of bike riding.

Some riders even justify noise as a safety factor - ie they can hear you coming from several Km away so they get out of your way.

Responsible bikers (and '4WDers') are aware that other other people use bush areas.

I tried that didn't work must be something in the photo that EO system doesn't like.

Here's a link to the photos

http://downunder4x4.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9310#9310">BIKE RESCUE PHOTOS

Baz.

Bike Photos

Thanx Redback that was so much better!!

Redback,

Thank you for getting the photos up on the site.

Wayne