Recovery Points Revisited - Cruiser 100 Series
Submitted: Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 15:04
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ev700
I am trying to source recovery points for a Landcruiser 100 Series TD. It is fitted with the Toyota alloy 'Cruiser' bar (winch capable).
In an earlier post ( 29704 ) relating to recovery points it was suggested that recovery eyes from Outback Ideas could easily.be fitted to a Landcruiser 100 Series.
I found out from the maker of the item that the mounting holes odf the part would have to be side drilled but that would be a minor change. Not worried about that.
What was a bigger problem though is that the
Brisbane stockist ARB advised me that it could not fit them because: modification of the bullbar was required and that would affect warranty of the bar; and if the bullbar was not taken off and modified the recovery eyes could not be fitted because only one bolt hole would be available and a spacer would have to be used which is not recommended (bar covers the other hole but does not utilise it). I did not get a quote, it all had to be looked into and so on.
There are hundreds of Toyotas running around with alloy Cruiser bars fitted to them and doubtless many have recovery points. What is the practical solution?
EV700
Reply By: glenno(qld) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 15:14
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 15:14
Well i have a steel bar(toyota commercial winch bar) and i was told the same thing by arb ( the recovery eyes could not be fitted ) . We are up bleep es creek without a paddle in a barbed wire canoe .
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 19:08
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 19:08
glenno
I think the advice I got from ARB was incomplete on this occasion.
Have a look at Matt's advice below.
Also, when I got under and have a look there was plenty of room with nothing in the road at all.
EV700
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 16:45
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 16:45
ev700 ,
I have an ARB bull bar on my 100TD and Mannell motors had no trouble at all fitting the Outback Ideas recovery eyes to the mounting points .
I suggest you give them a ring as they know what they're talking about .
Google their website for their phone no as I do not have it .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 19:18
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 19:18
Willie
I do not have the dimensions of the Outback Ideas eye, but contrary to what I was told, the two bolts are there to be used and neither is blocked off by the bullbar.
The guy from ARB said he had the Outback Ideas product and he was adamant that it could not be fitted to my current model 100 Series without taking the Toyota Cruiser bar off and modifying it.
However, as I said, I can't see why anything needs to be jiggered about to fit an eye or a hook because neither of the bolts is blocked by anything, both are standing free.
EV700
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Reply By: Member - Matt L (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 17:10
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 17:10
EV700,
I have a Land cruiser 100 Series TD fitted with a genuine Toyota alloy bar and winch.
My cruiser came with one drop forged hook fitted, I then purchased a second one from Toyota ($140) and fitted it to the other side. There is no interference with the bar or any modifications needed.
I use the two hooks combined with an equalizing strap as my recovery points.
Hope this helps.
Matt
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 18:59
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 18:59
Matt
I should have looked, there is hook approx 100mm long already in existence and adequate room for a similar hook on the other side.
These are the ones you were speaking about - square post with a hook?.
If so the 'problem' is very easily solved, thank you.
I think I have cause not to see ARB again.
EV700
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 19:42
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 19:42
ev700 ,
I Have one of those hooks and one bolt ( you need two ) if you would like it - no charge .
I live in
Sydney so you would have to get it somehow .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 23:15
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 23:15
Willie
I will take you up on your kind offer. Cpuld you flick me a phone number or email and I will be back to you.
nautilus246@hotmail.com
thanks again
EV700
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt L (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:51
Sunday, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:51
EV700,
The two hook and equalizing strap system will be your simplest solution,
but make sure when you purchase the new bolts that you buy high tensile ones.
You are lucky that Willie has a spare as $140 from Toyota is a bit much for what it is.
Regards,
Matt
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Sunday, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:36
Sunday, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:36
Matt
Yes, makes other solutions look cheap.
The firm I approached abot recovery eyes said they use the existing bolts, but their steel was 10mm and the base of the Toyota hook is thicker than that.
It looks as though existing bolts were re-used by the dealer when the present hook was re-installed after the bullbar was fitted.
Thanks again,
EV700
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Follow Up By: udm - Sunday, Jan 22, 2006 at 14:03
Sunday, Jan 22, 2006 at 14:03
$140 for 1 hook???????????????? Are you crazy?????????????? ;-)
For my 80lc I bought a front half chassis for $200, came with 2 hooks engine mounts, shock mounts, etc. I was only after the engine mounts, but I did put the hooks to good use though (at wreckers obviously)
Ulises
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 22:50
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 22:50
Another alternative I've seen around town is an adaptor, which is basically a piece of (about) 50x50x6mm angle.
!MPG:22!
On the bottom of the 100series chassis, on each side there are 3 holes that take 12x1.25mm thread HT bolts (photo only shows two, but there are 3 that can be used). Then a conventional 10,000lb recovery hook is bolted to the downwards part of the angle.
Looked very strong to me, but still, we always recommend a bridle or equalisation strap for attaching snatch straps to the front of any vehicle.
Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 23:18
Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 23:18
Phil G
Thanks for the idea.
I'll try the Toyota hooks for a start and hopefully they will hold in tandem.
EV700
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