Fitch is about to be fitted and trialled

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Like most of the blokes on here I have been a sceptic on the subject of the Fitch Fuel Catalyst. However, I had a bit of spare time a few days ago and did a search on this forum, just to see if there had been ANY positive results (either real or imagined). I stumbled upon post number 28142 by F4Phantom wherein he announced that his (admittedly unscientific) results had been positive.

I have kept accurate records of my fuel usage since I bought my patrol in 2000 and I know that my average fuel consumption is 15.63 l/100klm. I've done checks on various "blocks" of kilometers over say a 12 month period and it hardly ever varies (except when I've been doing a lot of low-range or slow sand driving etc).

I am just about to "take the plunge" and try one of these catalysts and will eventually post my results on here. I am only buying this item because I know there is a 3 month money-back offer. I am still sceptical. Any results I get will be purely "seat of the pants"; I don't have access to a dyno.

Some will say (assuming I end up reporting any fuel improvement) that I've altered my driving style. This may well be the case; but I seriously don't think so. Some of you may recall I recently had a new, bigger turbo fitted with max boost of 15psi. Has this turned me into a "boy-racer"? You MUST be joking!!!! I'm on the wrong side of 50 years old and my youthful days of squealing tyres and being a hoon are well and truly past ;-((

So, let the hatemail commence.........I am still a sceptic, but I don't judge anything fully until I've had a chance to prove/disprove something myself. Who knows, maybe a HiClone will be next??? haha

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 14:24

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 14:24
Roachie,

Good on you. This should put the issue to rest one way or another.

The fact that you are like me, the wrong side of 50 and squealing tyres are over, come on, you are driving a DIESEL, OK it might have a turbo but it is still a Nissan.

Good luck with the test.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:52

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:52
Hey Wayne,

I CAN still spin the tyres, but only in mud/sand/rocks...hahahaha

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 17:27

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 17:27
Will this put it to rest tho Wayne? For this car maybe yes maybe no. Diff cars will have diff results. But yes good on ya Roachie all the 4.2TD GU owners will wait with baited breath lol
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:05

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:05
"I'm on the wrong side of 50 years old and my youthful days of squealing tyres and being a hoon are well and truly past ;-(( "

Hmmmm!!! Thats does not describe the Roachie I met with the other week, He appeared no more than mid 30's and very youthful in his outlook and always playing with a very sporty turbo charged vehicle. ROTFLMAO.

Good to catch up last week Bill, hopefully do it again with a bit more time on our hands. Take care.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:53

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:53
G'day John,

When is your next optometrists appointment....lololol

It was nice to have the chance to meet with you......I take it the rest of your trip home was okay and you arrived safely etc.....

Cheers mate

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:23

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:23
LOl. have a look at post 30123 for my short trip report.
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Follow Up By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:00

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:00
Hey Roachie - that face lift you had musta gone pretty well - though I guess that Mr Muddy girl might have an eye problem as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:27

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:27
Eye test, right yep!!!! have that on the list, Doc do you really think I have a problem?????. LOL.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:18

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:18
good luck. While I rubish all these things I know i should really test them but I do BA highway running which is really the best way to get consistent usage figures. So i figure what is the point of trying a savings device whan i have no chance of quantafying results.
I used to work DIDO from leinster which would have been a good test as it is 380km of fklat road with 2 towns to go through. i would fill up in kal and get there and back then refill with no other driving except there and back however as I only did the trip 2wice in 3 weeks I couldnt have qauntified results within the 3 months
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Reply By: gramps - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:31

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:31
Well I guess that's the only space left to fill in your vehicle, the inside of the fuel tank:))))

This should be very interesting. I was wondering why you'd been so quiet lately Roachie.
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:36

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:36
Top response Gramps, I'm LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:49

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:49
No Gramps, I've got an exterior unit and I've gotta get rid of the Morison Debug unit in order to have space to fit the Fitch. If I'm happy after 3 months, I may be selling the Debug on the Trader.......
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Follow Up By: gramps - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:50

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:50
Trev,

He's a good bloke and will undoubtedly return serve sooner or later LOLOL
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Follow Up By: gramps - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:52

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:52
hahahaha what'd I tell ya :)))) He's admiited he's run out of room for more gizmos ! Time for a bigger truck Roachie :))
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:55

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 15:55
Cheeky buggar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha

LMAO......

Cheers Roachie
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:01

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:01
Whats that old saying Gramps.

A something and his $ are something or other.. cant remember..
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Follow Up By: gramps - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:11

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:11
No Truckster, Roachie is actually a closet test pilot boldly going where none have gone before LOLOL
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:12

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:12
U call it what you will Gramps..
lol.

either that or bill s has hacked roachies account to post dribble and try and fool humans
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 19:58

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 19:58
Arrhh yes Bruce. I've couldn't figure it out, think you've hit the nail on the head with this one...good work.
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Reply By: Eddy - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:01

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:01
Good on you Roachie.
Bring it on!
As a youg fella (I won't see 50 again either) I was a marine engineer and saw quite a few of these types of device on large marine diesel engines.
I had no idea what they were, just a hollow chamber bolted to a bulkhead
connected to the main fuel feed line.
I felt dumb not knowing what they were and once having had a peek inside
and finding no moving parts and nothing I could relate to as an engineer
I asked someone else what they were & what they did.
Answer was "They condition & save fuel"
It all looked like a black art to me as a trained engineer with no background
in chemistry or voodoo!
Seeing as no two boats are alike and fuel consumption is a very variable thing
on the ocean I was at a loss to quantify any improvement in performance or fuel economy.

So as I said bring it on and put my mind at rest at least for once and for all

Eddy
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Reply By: Member - toohey - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:20

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:20
g'day roachie
mate your'e over 50 yrs.and your gunna buy one of these gizzmos,i guess we hav'nt learnt much(i've been think'n about it)good onya,if it works i'll go get me one.if it don't maybe we'll met up one day and i'll buy ya a few beers for trying it and saving me the dough.
cheers toohey
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Reply By: flappa - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:26

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:26
I wouldn't fit one , purely based on principal.

Good luck with it though.
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 17:31

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 17:31
Principal of what????
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 21:42

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 21:42
Turd Island?
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:28

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:28
The BS way Bill goes about destroying every thread he posts in.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 17:32

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 17:32
umm flappa I am flummoxed, what dya mean?
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Reply By: revhead307 - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:33

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 16:33
G'day Roachie,

As much i think it will do bugger all...i'll still be keeping my ear to the ground on your comments (as i suspect a number here will)

Used to have a hiclone on the trol..but without doing any meaningful before after tests...it was probably just a waste of $160. now i just alter my driving habits.

:-)

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 18:41

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 18:41
Roachie,
Or who ever you are?
I think that it is a bit strange that the bloke from Finch and this other bloke "Roachie" have the same first name. How do we know that they are not one in the same?

Bill could have been planning this for years, posing as a nice bloke on the Forum, buying heaps of stuff on his vehicle and then he gets us all in, and we all go out and but one of these things.

Does he really own the Nissan?
Can he really afford all the accessories with out the backing of a large firm?
Has anyone ever seen the two of them at the same place at the same time?
And just look at his sign off.

Well Roachie, If that is who you really are, I can not wait for the results.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 18:45

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 18:45
Wayne now you have me worried, If what you write is true then Who did I have lunch with last week?

I would be most upset if i did not meet the real "Legend behind the Nissan" LOL.

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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 18:46

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 18:46
He's even trying to hide his rig pic these days. Can anyone see Bill S in all that blur?
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 19:03

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 19:03
What worries me is that he may revert to the Bill S that we all know and love and actually start trumpeting his wares.
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Reply By: F4Phantom - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 21:10

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 21:10
Hi Roachie, I really hope you see a difference. I went into getting the fitch without too much thought and was really hoping it would work. As my car was new at the time I used to go easy on it, now I thrash it everywhere so as for fuel economy I think the fitch in my case has its work cut out for it. In the end though I actually do think it works (based on fuel logs but scientificly speaking a bit sketchy). I doubt it would work consistently on every type of car and there is a post floating around about another patrol owner who did not see any difference, also a post about a diesel toyota which claims 10% increase. Mine is about 7% better. My MT's put quite a drain on economy, so there is a lot of things you can do to improve economy without the fitch, however if your car is set up with no future changes, if after all you can do to improve economy, on top of that the fitch can help then I would say it aint a bad idea.

BTW there are a few companies now fitting the fitch after proper research (according to fitch they can supply all the official paperwork if anyone wants it) as OEM on their engines. Two examples is John Deer and the aussie army on Leopard tanks.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:13

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:13
CORRECTION.....CORRECTION.....CORRECTION......

I said in the original post that I'd been keeping accurate records of my fuel usage and had averaged 15.63 litres per hundred klicks since new. It appears I may have made an error.

Having just fitted the said Fitch in the last hour or so, I decided I'd better bring my log book inside the house and re-introduce it to the calculator. Now I need to make an admission here....I'm not much good with figures!!!! hahaha

Now the error (more like an oversight on time elapsed since I last did my calculations really).............. Up until tonight the last time I'd done any calculations in my book was on 20/3/2004......I've got a note in my log book that refers to Post Number 11,471 which will probably refer to Synforce Oil change. At that time, I'd done 117,004 klicks using 18,284.89 (ie: 15.63 l/100) litres of diesel. This compared almost identically with the previous average I'd recorded on 6/4/2003 when I'd done 88,964 klicks using 13,628.93 litres (ie: 15.31 l/100).

So it was that at the beginning of this post I quoted the last-calculated average usage.

However, for reasons unknown (although it could have something to do with additional 1.1 tonne of gear I have managed to cram onto the old girl), my average over the past 15 months (including a trip across the Simpson, but that wasn't very far in the big scheme of things), has blown out to 17.20 l/100. I have travelled 38,894 klm since 26/10/2004 and used 6,691.01 litres to give me this most recent figure.

Now, as mentioned above by F4Phantom, tyre choice could have something to do with this as I have been running MT/Rs which are a bit more aggressive than the Cooper STs and could have contributed to the increased fuel usage.

Interestingly, since fitting the new Schwitzer/Denco turbo, I have done 5,096 klm using 836.37 litres (ie: 16.41 l/100).

Make of this what you will of course, but I thought I'd better set the record straight for the "start point" for the Fitch Fuel "test".

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:46

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:46
Already the figures are being "touched up".
That is, if they are your own figures.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:52

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 22:52
G'day Wayne,
Annette said you sent me a MM just as I was going out to the truck to fit "IT" to the Patrol. By the time i got back, no MM on my puter.
I can assure you this really is ME. hahaha Even Bill S can't waffle on as good as I can, eh??
Love your new rig pic....(no piccy of that bloody horid blandcruiser anywhere to be seen!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha).
Cheers mate
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 23:08

Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 23:08
It has to be Bill S hackign Roachies account. I'll email Dave.
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Follow Up By: Member - Luxoluk - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:45

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:45
Carefull Roachie...I sense you are a distinct prospect for the 2006 shoelace award!! LOL.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 16:39

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 16:39
Bill, when I had an occasional back problem years ago Heather suggested I see the chiropractor at the clinic she goes to. I was told all about body magnatism and balance by a faith healer and I haven't been back. If I don't twist and lift I don't have the problem, but she has kept the guy in fuel and tyres for his BMW for years.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 17:40

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 17:40
RAOFLMAO......

Oh ye of little faith!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha
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