Battery Charging
Submitted: Monday, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:32
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David
I have searched the archives and found a lot of stuff about fridges, batteries, generators, solar panels but all I'm looking for is a simple answer.
I have a couple of fridges. One Liemack one engel.
I have a dual battery system on the car and an extra one on the camper.
I don't have the money to buy solar panels or an EUgenerator or eqivalent or expensive deep cycle batteries. They are all N70 normal start batteries.
I am not an auto electrician but would like some advice in layman's terms.
I do not want a long list of "should have's" or other recommendations/options unless they are really cheap.
Question is :- Whats wrong with just charging the camper battery off the vehicle battery using jumper leads ? Obviously you would need to have your car started & running for a while ! Secondly if this is possible how long would it take to charge back up say from 11.5volts
Reply By: OziExplorer - Monday, Jan 20, 2003 at 13:31
Monday, Jan 20, 2003 at 13:31
David the problem with hooking your second battery up in the method you describe, is you are not getting the full charge into the battery from the alternator. You are only getting the potential difference between the two battery voltages. The alternator only senses the battery that is most fully charged. This could result in requiring quite a time to fully charge.
The cheapest and best solution for your case is to get a dual battery switch preferably with a field isolation switch built in.
Supercheap carry these switches and they are not that expensive. I don't know if the one they carry has the field isolator switch.
These switches are designed to be hooked up with battery cable.
The switch can have these possitions.
OFF
Battery One
Battery Two
Both
or just the first three.
What you would do is start on your main battery, and then switch over to your second battery.
Now, you would have to
check with an auto electrician if the alternator you have is safely switched at idle without a field switch. Most alternators at idle are ok, but don't take this for granted as some Hitachi models are not and will require a field switch before change over.
Just thinking about this, a battery switch with BOTH on would be better if you discharge the second battery to much. Some alternators require sufficient voltage to sense to start charging. If you flattened the battery to much then the alternator would not sense and charge the battery. If you had BOTH on the switch, the fully charged battery would then start supplying some charge to the second battery, and once it had come up somewhat, you could go back to idle and change the switch over to that battery on its own to get full charge. This system would need to be totally independent of your present dual battery system, or would need to be incorporated into your dual battery system to override it and work as described so you got full charge into the battery from your camper.
As to how long,
well it depends on the battery size and the size of your alternator and the state of charge. An amp meter would be a useful device in the circuit so you know what is happening in that second battery. I think at the Supercheap etc. they can be had for around $15.00
I am not exactly rapped in using jumper cable leads. These do damage the terminals to ensure a proper connection, can come off or not make a good connection which could fry your alternator. A good eye terminal would be better solution with a wing nut terminal.
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