Melbourne City Link - Navarra Rates

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:31
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City link are wanting to charge me 'light commercial ' rates for my new dual cab Navara ST-X. Any one any experience of rates for dual cabs vs cab chasis?
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:40

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:40
I lived in Melbourne a few years ago and had a Courier Dual Cab 4WD at the time. When I rang to add it to the e tag account, they tried the same thing. I let it slide and rang back later and called it a Ford Utility (rather than a Courier 4WD).

Got charged normal car rates and never had a problem.

The person you are dealing with probably doesn't know one car from another. The just punch key word in the computer and real what is on the screen.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:50

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:50
Norm, I tried that line until one day they caught up with me... I argued black & blue that I could understand if I was a trady and could claim it as an expense but they were'nt interested... I even argued that some 4wd's out there have a far greater GVM than my ute, still not interested. In their vehicle classifications they class any "cab-chassis" vehicle with a GVM between 1.5t and 4.5t as "light-commercial".

Not a lot you can do about it...
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Follow Up By: arthurking83 - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:18

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:18
Quote: "had a Courier Dual Cab 4WD at the time. When I rang to add it to the e tag account, they tried the same thing. I let it slide and rang back later and called it a Ford Utility"

I tried that with my Rodeo!
Called it a holden ute (hoping for Commodore ute rates!)

Her: "What model holden ute?"

Me: Ummm....model? Ummm holden??!! ;-)

Her: Yeah! Is it a Commodore....? Rodeo?

Ummm???? Holden, I think? I dunno!!! Just a half a car looking thing, with a chopped off back! :))

In the end........No Dice :(
Gotta pay full whack! Just like the 4 tonners do :((

I should have tried Jackaroo or Frontera!.... 4WD...I dunno it says 4WD :D
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:59

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:59
They have obviously got a lot smarter over time. Did mine back when the toll road had only been open a few months. Live in God's Country now, so not a problem
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Reply By: Member - Luxoluk - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 22:50

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 22:50
Same problem with my Hilux DC. Couldn't change their perspectve so just resigned myself to higher rates. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 00:21

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 00:21
You home? How was the holiday?
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:01

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:01
if you have a canopy , call it a wagon
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 07:24

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 07:24
Mine has a canopy and they still caught up with me... Just got the letter in the mail saying blah, blah, actually a light commercial, blah,blah, not going to back charge you, blah, blah, have a nice day...
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 00:21

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 00:21
Bit strange that one, most 4wd's including my Troopy are at car rates.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 07:21

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 07:21
That's what I don't understand...
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 00:31

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 00:31
I haven't an etag but purchase the occasional 24hr pass on the web for when I have the misfortune of travelling through Melb. I have only paid car rates. My dual cab isn't a commercial vehicle.
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Reply By: pee-kay - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 02:04

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 02:04
About 12 months ago we went through Melbourne too, although our experience wasn't for a dual cab. We have a Mitsubishi Canter 4WD with a camper built on the back. It is registered here in W.A. as a 'motorised caravan'. We had to pay commercial rates because of the weight of the vehicle, but what got us was that a vehicle towing a caravan was charged at car rates with the caravan free. It is a good money raiser for Melbourne. Had we not been going through there in peak hour we probably would have found some way round and saved ourselves something like $15 toll. We had more success on the toll ways in Sydney getting the vehicle through as a private vehicle as opposed to a commercial vehicle. Good luck in your endeavours to get your vehicle at car rates. Prue
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 07:58

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 07:58
We went to a wedding in Melbourne in December and did that. It took us about 30 minutes longer than going down the toll way and we drove through some nice suburbs. We only had the RACV Greater Melbourne map with the major roads marked too.

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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:28

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:28
Actually it is a good money raiser for Transurban - a publicly listed company. Should buy bloody shares in them to get some of my tolls back as dividends - investors are getting rich off me driving to work.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:10

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:10
I can't believe that you drove a truck from Perth to Melbourne to Sydney with all the fuel costs that entails, that you would even think about travelling the suburbs to save $15.

Melbourne suburbs are not that pretty, and you would easily cop a hefty traffic fine if you missed one of the 40k limits that are everywhere, not to mention the congestion.

I hate the tolls too, but if my trip cost me $4000 rather than $4015 I doubt that it would stick in my mind.

I'd probably miss a meal to recover the $15.00 cause I'm guilty of consuming too much food like the rest of us!!
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Reply By: Raymond from Wanderin 4 Wheelers - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 08:53

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 08:53
Hi
Just came back from Sydney. Well after one day on their toll roads I was $30 poorer, they go on vehicle lenght, anything over 2 metres is considered commercial. I loved the sign that said a car and trailer under 2 metres was only charged car rate, still trying to think of a car and trailer combo under 2 metres in lenght

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Follow Up By: Rotty - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:19

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:19
Is that 2m length a mistake as there are very few if any vehicles less than 2 m long so every sedan would be commercial rates. Maybe 6 m long?
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:21

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:21
"anything over 2 metres is considered commercial"

Bloody hope not! A commodore sedan is 4.8mt long!!

Only thing I can think of that comes in under 2 mt is a motor scooter. Even most motor bikes are over 2 metres long............
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Follow Up By: Raymond from Wanderin 4 Wheelers - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:31

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:31
Whoops hit the wrong key, 6 metres, the motorhome is 7.5 and all the cars with campers or caravans were stung for the extra fee
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:32

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:32
Ray,
That two metre measurement is hight.
Regards Ian
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Follow Up By: PhineasP - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:04

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:04
Ray

How many trips for $30? Was that a return trip on one toll road?

We were planning to use the M7 to transit Sydney on our way to Qld but if it costs us $15 one way I think I'll traffic jam in the suburbs instead.

Jim
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Follow Up By: Raymond from Wanderin 4 Wheelers - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:52

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:52
Hi Jim
The toll on the M7 is $5.98 till March 2006 not sure what happens then, plus their website does not say if there is a different charge for large vehicles. At 5.98 I would take it. The other tolls I paid included going through the city area north to south and then west 5 tolls I think 3 were $7.70 each

Ray
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Follow Up By: ImEasy - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:54

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:54
You beat me to it, The toll on the M7 is $5.98 till March , I would pay twice that to not go through the burbs, besides, you would save that in fuel anyway, and heaps less time.
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:48

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:48
Fellers - believe me - the cost of the toll is worth it in Sydney. Just got back from 5 months away to find the M7 is open, and saved myself at least 3/4 hour, not to mention endless stops and starts at traffic lights. Funny though, they must have a good tolerance on their height measuring gear. My caravan is 2.1 m high, and whenever I get the bill it only charges me for a car & low trailer. Not complaining and hoping the M7 has the same "problem"!

If you are going to the best caravan park in Sydney, at North Ryde, plan to take the M7 / M2 and exit at Delhi Road and you only have 1 km to the park. You won't know how bad Sydney traffic is till you take the bus next morning to the station.

:-)
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:58

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:58
Correct me if I'm wrong, a Navara is a light commercial vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:27

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:27
Yes it is Shaker but if you check out mitsubishi's(as this is relevant to my situation) vehicle classifications, all of their 4x4's are "light commercials"
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:10

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:10
I thought my reply was to the original post!
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:36

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:36
Yes it was, I was just wanted to highlight that car makers categorise more than just their DC utes as light commercials... Guess I'm just annoyed that we are the only "car" being ripped off...
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 20:15

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 20:15
I recall a few years back travelling along the Melbourne tollway with SWMBO sitting up purse in hand ready to pay toll... we never heard anything about it. Tried to get an epass for the M7 and what an excercise was on the phone for 15 mins at $1 a minute gave all the details and did the trip but have not had a bill yet... Going to buy an Etag though with a couple of brackets as I'm always in Sydney & the M7 goes exactly where I want to go...
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