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Submitted: Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 14:27
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For those that want to know about the CD for the TOPO maps from Magellean I just recived this info:

unfortunately , magellan has told us that they will not produce the cd for topo. what will be produced however is a viewer program that will read the topo card thru the unit (slower) or thru an sd card reader (faster). the expected release of this viewer program (free of charge) will be mid 2006, thru either download on website or sent out to those who can't. the viewer will replicate the functions of the cd, or at least most of the functions

At least now we know!!!!
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 14:57

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 14:57
You know its quite funny if you have a sense of humour.

At the 4WD Show in Adelaide last October, the sales reps had a copy of topographic maps running on a laptop to demonstrate the capabilities to the potential buyers. If they could load it then, why can't they give their customers similar capabilities now?

I own a Magellan Meridian Platinum Marine whiz banger GPS.
I also purchased a copy of DiscoverOz (non-topo) software.
I also purchased a copy of Australia's Great Dessert Tracks software.

Now all these products work quite well, but after playing around with OziExplorer and what it can provide, I'm NOT going to spend more money on upgraded software with Magellan. The stuff I have is sufficient to keep me from getting lost when using the GPS as a stand-alone unit.

The CD, or DVD version of topographic maps, when it became available, was supposed to have been offered as an upgrade at a lower price.

$400 for a SD version?.........In their dreams.

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Follow Up By: Member - Luxoluk - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 18:41

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 18:41
I'm with you Sandman. I operate both and my inclination is to lean more toward OziExplorer with an 8" TFT screen. Magellan have lost the plot in my view however, having said this, their vector technology platform should be delivering a superior product. Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Fred L (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:11

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:11
Hi Dandman, I read somewhere that the CD is available for the USA version. No use to us. By the way would u recommend OziExplorer. It probaly wouldn't hep me with the TOPO maps though. All I want to do is be able to enter all my POI's on a PC and then download that to the GPS. That would mean having to buy more maps though - even though I am very happy with the MapSend TOPO maps.
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Reply By: Member - Fred L (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:30

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:30
Hey Sand Man - sorry about the typo. I hope u didn't spew!!!
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Feb 03, 2006 at 09:50

Friday, Feb 03, 2006 at 09:50

The DiscoverAus software works very well for that purpose.
You can preplan your trip on a PC then upload it to the (Magellan) GPS.

As I have stated, the existing software works very well and I can transfer data to and from the Laptop and GPS without hassles.

I'm just not going to invest in any more. Not at $400 anyway.

I am a convert to OziExplorer after seeing for myself the capability of the moving map feature. Absolutely brilliant and it's a home-grown and supported Ozi product that is obtainable at a realistic price.
All one needs is decent maps and the NATMAP Premium DVD provides that.


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Reply By: The Explorer - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:00

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:00
I suspect the main reason for not producing the CD is to prevent people copying it/uploading maps to multiple GPS units as was easily done with DiscoverAus. Having the SD card encripted maps prevents (I assume) people copying them and using them on other SD cards/GPS units....so the only way to get the maps is to pay for them - fair enough I suppose. The level of detail on Magellan maps is very good for a hand held GPS and worth the expense if you get around a bit. Hopefully the software will still be half useful as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:30

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:30
Hi Greg ,
It's me the computer idiot ! Will I be able to buy one of these SD cards and plug it in to my MAP Colour ?
Thanks ,
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:42

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:42
Hello Willie - There are currently two versions of the SD card - one for eXporist units and one for Magellan units as the map formats used is different for the different models. I am not 100% sure but I assume the Meridian format maps will work (like they did with Discoveraus) in your Magellan FX324 MAP Colour. I do see some issues though as the FX does not allow you to choose different maps off an SD card - ie only the one map is loaded automatically and you cant choose which one. The topo SD card has all of Australia as a series of separate files (I think..havent got around to buying one yet) so this could be a problem. Suggest you ring the guys at Magellan and ask before purchasing.
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Reply By: Peter1 - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 19:16

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 19:16
This situation with the topo upgrade makes me really mad, I only purchased the Explorist 500 from the Brisbane trade show based on the assurances given that the new upgrade on Cd was only 3 months away, its now 9 months, now it is never. I spoke to a representative from the ACCC who stated that I should put my complaint in writing to them because given the wording on the voucher plus the verbal assurances given a the show He believes I would have reasonable grounds for a misrepresentation case again them he also said to forward the letter to office of fair trading in South Australia as well. If they get enough complaints they may investigate.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 21:51

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 21:51
Hi Fred & others,

I love my Meridian Platinum, and I'm really happy with my DiscoverAUS (original) & GDT stuff.

I had a brief look at a mates DiscoverAUS Topo today - mad bugger bought the SD card - and I have to say it's not worth the upgrade.

That all said, these days, OziExplorer is what I now use for mapping in the vehicle. I run a bluetooth GPS by Haicom on the dash and the iPaq hx4700 sits neatly in a RAM mount by the A pillar.

The mapping, routing and waypoint capabilities of OziExplorerCE are far superior. I have no shortage of maps for Victoria and have it covered at about any resolution I could find useful. It integrates seamlessly with Ozi on my laptop - just save a waypoint, route or track file onto either the CF or SD card and pop it in the iPaq. Voila!

I use the iPaq for running OziCE for mapping, MS Internet Explorer for cache notes & Windows Media Player (with a Belkin Tunecast) for MP3 music transmitted to the stereo. It does all three simultaneously. If I'm on a long trip I set up the shortcut buttons by the keypad to take me to those three programs.

I also have on a separate 128meg SD card the Navman software. When I'm somewhere I don't know I can punch in a destination and it will take me there. Interestingly when trying to go straight through Adelaide from Port Pirie to Victor Harbour I told it to find me the quickest route - then Lynne asked why we weren't taking such & such route (A13 or something as that was where we were going to end up according to the Navman), being a good husband and not wishing to have an argument I took her route. Ended up in an industrial area with dozens of lights, parked cars obstructing one of the two lanes etc. etc. Time to destination was going up and up. In the end I had the argument and defended the technology, followed it's redirections back to the intended route and it was heaps faster. Just better roads for bulk traffic. SWMBO got over it after a lengthy silent period. She didn't often navigate before that, and hasn't offered since.

Anyway, I digressed. The Meridian Platinum has now been relegated to out of the car portable use for geocaching. Which it does extremely well, especially with the electronic compass.

If you don't mind technology and are a little au fait with computers go the PDA and wireless GPS option (dc power lead powers the PDA). It's far better, and if you decide you want topo maps load the topo maps if you decide you want non-topo like Vicroads load that. Plenty of people here have stuff to trade. If no ones got what you want your local plan copy place with a big scanner will scan your paper map of the area you want in one pass (big file but you reduce that) then you can calibrate it in Ozi and convert it for OziCE.

The cost to set it up depends a little on how you do it but this is what I did:
hx4700 iPaq $750
DC lead for iPaq $30
Haicom Bluetooth GPS $260 ish
(one of just a very few pocket PC with a 640x480 VGA resolution screen)
RAM mount $80 (roughly - twist lock suction base)
2Gig CF Memory card for maps $300+ (prices are dropping all the time)
512Mb SD card for MP3's $60ish
Software. Depends what you end up using but Ozi & OziCE can be bought in the shop here.
Maps - whatever you can buy or scrounge - I prefer the latter.

Here's an example from a recent trip.

There's an add in for the hx4700 to run at true VGA if you want too. Makes the buttons pretty small but the maps are unreal.

Magellan/NEXT are the biggest pack of liars. In the years I have been using their gear I got five different release dates for topo, all of which passed without product, promises of upgrades that were too good to be true (price more than doubled) and they obviously lie to their retailers cos Gaz bought the SD that I was looking at today in the last day or so and was still told he'd get a discounted version of the CD version when it comes out in a few months.

At this rate they might as well give their business to Des from Ozi or Garmin, cos that's what they'll do. The platinum won't play MP3's and autoroute either.

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