AH.......... The memories (sniff)

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We were watching an Aussie move last night, from around 1993 or so, the camera panned slowly past a BP servo; the price of fuel........64.9 cents pl. Driving along this morning, diesel was 1.359 cpl. enough to make you cry.

Rob
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 14:15

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 14:15
That always amazes me, how us blokes can pick up on stuff like that.

There was a film out a few years ago, called October Sky, starring Helen Hunt, I believe.

This film didn't do THAT well, and it was upon my insistence at Blockbuster, that they get the video in for me. I did notice, after I'd watched it, and returned it, it was always out on loan.

Anyway, I come across this film by way of an internet newsgroup called rec.sci.eng.metalworking, and everyone was talking about the Myford lathe, and Cincinnati mill, etc. There was a whole section in this newsgroup devoted to this film, and the toys... whoops tools in the film.

Retired guys talking about machines that way a five y/o would relate to his folks about a racing car..."... and it had BIG wheels Mum, and it had LOUD engine mum..."

Anyway, twas a good film. Based upon a true story actually.

64.9 cpl... wow....

I wrote in an earlier post about having a time machine. Maybe if I took some big jerry cans back with me....

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Follow Up By: kesh - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:28

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:28
Myford lathe, yes, ML7. Mine gets used most days. Lovely little machine, just a necessary part of the workshop!
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 21:42

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 21:42
HEy Wolfie...was that Mike Hunts wife by any chance ?
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 22:55

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 22:55
Classic!!!

I had to read it a couple of times...

Pure Gold!
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Reply By: D-Jack - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 14:26

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 14:26
I was watching an episode of 'A River Somewhere' a month or 2 ago. They drove into a high country town (can't remember which one) and commented that the only thing that detracted from the beauty of the place was the price of petrol. It was about 70c/L if I remember correctly. Imagine driving into a country town now and seeing prices like that. It would make Coober Pedy look lush and beautiful!
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:36

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:36
Mansfield, iirc.

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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:03

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:03
When I was at college in the 70's, I can remember buying 20c worth of petrol so that I could get home, around 35k away. I can also remember the first oil shock, around the time the V8 P76 came out. Talk about bad timing.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:09

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:09
"around the time the V8 P76 came out"

Wow!!!

I was living in Canberra as a 14 y/o when that came out, but... more important, do remember the film they did for it on the telly? They were way ahead in the media marketing stakes back then.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:22

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:22
Not only do I remember the ads but I actually drove one for a while. Unfortunately I couldnt afford to keep getting the rust cut out and the HUGE windscreen repaired. But boy was it a smooth ride :)
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:29

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:29
Used to go out on Friday night after work packet Marlboro fill the tank and way to many beers and get change from a 20
That was in about 1977
petrol about 11c per litre from memory.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:55

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 15:55
I can even remember the time when a female wouldnt be seen dead fishing ! In fact I went fishing with my new wife and as I pulled a fish in she exclaimed, "it's ALIVE". "Don't worry, not for long" says I. You would of thought she'd married a chain saw murderer for a while after that.
Here are some prices from the early 70's:
425 grm tomato puree, 27c
16oz can tuna, 83c
3oz Arnotts potato chips, 25c
Colgate fluroguard, 44c
750ml Coke, Fanta , Tab (remember that one ?), 19C ea.
Spam, 79c
750ml ? Laundry detergent 67c

Hmmmm........
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:01

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:01
And if you think those prices are crook, I found an old newspaper years ago advertising new houses at 3000 POUNDS ! Which, I think from memory was around 2 years average wages at the time......
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:29

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:29
Now footlose was that docket in the draw with your first pay packet or you got a really good memory. Please exxxplaaaaine.

All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:51

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:51
Four double scotches and dry for $2.00 I seem to remember before going to the dance. I could rake up courage for any girl then.......
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Follow Up By: gramps - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:54

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:54
I was going to say something about 8 schooners (NSW) for $2 with change leftover but I think you've trumped me John :))))))))
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:03

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:03
Eric, I found a slide of a shop window from that era when I went to convert all my dying slides to puter format.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:18

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:18
John, I could never drink enough to get the courage.
My bro told me he'd show me how it was done (1970's). We went to a Sydney club, drank a few for courage and away he wandered to try his luck with a couple of femme fatals at the bar. His opening, oh so smooth, James Bond type line ? "Er G'day. Do you know where the toilets are ?"
That from Gods gift to women ! Never took him out again.........:))
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:37

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:37
I would get into too much trouble for that now of course.

Gramps, I reckon my kidney would be overtaxed with 8 schooners now unless over four hours. Perhaps a bottle of red and a bit or some scotches.
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Follow Up By: gramps - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:47

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:47
hahahahaha I remember 6 schooners per lunch hour in my callow youth. Every time I think of it I receive horrible threats from my 'chinese' bladder LOLOLOL
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:52

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:52
BTW Eric my pay as a "professional" in 1973 was a tad over $60 a week. The cleaning lady used to take home more than me. I complained and was told that my attitude was "unprofessional". Nobody worked there for the money......what a difference to today's climate !
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 21:46

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 21:46
Talk about P76's.....I remember the day my dad was told to destroy them, he drove the yard fork and i sat down out of harms was watching them being crushed......they looked nice at the time...lol...i think they were "different"...yes thats it.
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Reply By: brumac - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:00

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:00
I remember riding home from tech on my Honda 750 in the early 80s and running out of fuel; filled tank for $2.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:02

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:02
You wouldn't even get a whiff of it now for 2 bucks !
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Follow Up By: brumac - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:05

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:05
Ride BMW now; costs about $25 to fill tank.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:08

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:08
I drive 4wd now, and must spill around $2 worth of diesel when filling on a bad day :))
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Follow Up By: brumac - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:21

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:21
I also have a 4wd which I don't fill full very often.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:00

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:00
I rode my Kawasaki 250 from Robe in SA to the Naval College at Jervis Bay NSW, left with $20 in my pocket, bought fuel and food on the way and arrived with change! That was in 1977.

I can also remember feeling ripped off paying 20c a litre in Mildura on another trip!

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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:01

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:01
Never mind fuel, what about the price of housing! Houses here in Mandurah have over doubled in price in under 4 years! Similar story right around the country I believe. I wonder how how first home buyers can afford to get int the market even with the $14K (now $7K?) first home owners grant.

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:54

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:54
Hey Melissa, that is your superannuation isn't it? I think I know of a couple of bean counters there who should be doing alright ;-)
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:27

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:27
When Dad was about 12 & he's nearly 60 now they had been camping at Sorrento for a few years as a family with other families on other peoples land.

My grandfather (dec) was definately working class and sold manchester to families visiting them at home in the old chev and to some small shops I believe. Never a rich man but he worked hard and was careful with what they had.

He sat Dad & his sister down one day not a long time after TV was the new big thing, and gave them a choice:
Given the choice would they like a new TV or a block of land at Sorrento of their own to camp on - and eventually build a weekender on?

The block of land (something like 70' by 200') and the TV were about the same price!!!

They figured they could watch the TV at the neighbours and the block would be a one time offer and took the block.

It still has a 2 b/r fibro beachhouse on it and is still in the family.

The block would now be worth something like $250,000.

These days there's no way any working or middle class family would consider dropping 250 large on anything apart from the home they live in. Certainly not on the latest tele.

Probably the nearest equivalent is low orbit space tourism. It'll get cheaper, is about $250K for a trip now and the same bit of land would still be worth more than it in 30-40 years time.

Scary comparisons, particularly anywhere around the coast. I wonder what Lindsay Fox's Portsea beach shack was worth in 1955?



Mr Fox is in....

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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:29

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:29
:o)))) Geocaching takes you to some interesting locations.....
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Follow Up By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 20:58

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 20:58
Mellissa,
it all depends on what you are prepared to accept.
father in law retired from driving interstate at 70 , lived in sydney for a few years but couldnt hack it. 8 months ago sold his caravan and bought a 2 bedroom house on a double block with a/c , evap cooling, hws and flush dunny for $12,600.only thing is he had to move to the country NSW(Gulargambone).its only 31/2 hours from sydney. there are heaps of other houses available in the town for $35-50k.
problem is today people wont accept a house unless its 4 bedrooms all with built ins, ensuite, office, ducted vacumn cleaner , double garage etc etc etc.
they deserve to have a $400,000 mortgage.
I'll stick with the house we bought 30 years ago , not the flashest in the country but its home and its been mine for the last 20 years.
what i dont spend on house payments allow me to travel when and where I please.

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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 23:49

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 23:49
John, I'd certainly rather be in the market right now that trying to get in :-))).

Howard, you are right to a degree. We had to leave the Whitsundays where I grew up because we realised we'd never be able to afford our own home there. At least, not without getting a stake somewhere else first. In 20 years my kids will probably have to leave Mandurah for the same reason. Many small towns in WA wheatbelt like Gulargambone such as the one my husband grew up in (his family is still there) but trouble is no work, limited healthcare, limited opportunities re good schools and special interests for kids etc. There are good reasons why properties are so cheap.

I know plenty of people who have hocked themselves to the eyeball for a flash house and basically have no life outside of work because they can't afford. It is scary what the banks will lend when it's secured by property BUT that doesn't mean you have to borrow up to your limits. My concern is that to live anywhere half desirable, those starting out now will have to hock themselves this way for a basic 20-30 year old 3x1 in need of renovation.

:o) Melissa

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:28

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:28
Melissa, it seem very much like that. We looked at investment houses three years back but at the top of the cycle it would have been the wrong time. Blocks that are barely bigger than the house have not enough room for the garaging fun for the family areas.

I remember years ago one mate was attracted to a house that had garaging for 7 cars and the wife for the pool. Yes, the house looked like a Greek palace but they bought it for their home as the kids were growing out of the earlier one. Seems the Greek or other palace is where newly partnered want to settle for their FIRST home now.

Reckon the mate mentioned above new the practicality as he had a wedding hire car business to run.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:14

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:14
I paid 136.9 for diesel today, It took $150 and it wasnt even empty!! I wish all the roads were downhill !!!!!
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Reply By: Member - toohey - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:41

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 17:41
FE holden ute used to cost me 99c to drive from nowra to sydney in 1966
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:14

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:14
Average Weekly earnings in September Quarter1993 were $603.50, September Quarter 2005 were $1023.20 (official Tax Dep't figures.)

So 64.9/603.5*1023.3 = $1.103 cpl when indexed to the AWE.

So we should all be OK with a price of $1.10 but that's a long way from $1.35.

And all the profits are going to Middle Eastern countries to fund their chosen lifestyles and attitudes to the West (their biggest customers!)
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:41

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 18:41
1970 ,Albury N.S.W petrol "super" was 30c a gallon = 7c per litre ,packet of 20 Marlboro red +box of matches +2x middies/pots of beer {full strength ,no such thing as mid or light } 7cents change from 1 yes $1 dollar ,,,1st yr apprentice joiner/wood machinist take home pay $15.00 for 40hr wk+ sat am.
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 19:05

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 19:05
I used to give my older neighbour 50c to get me a packet of marlboro and never got any change so I figure he owes me a bit of change in 36 years if you look at the interest rates and the value of the dollar.

All the best
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Follow Up By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 21:08

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 21:08
moved to canberra end of 72 , uni student on $27 pew week.
drove a mini and it cost less than $2 to fill the 5 1/2 gallon tank .
bottle of coke and a ice cream 10 cents.
from memory 4 of us shared a 2 bedroom flat for $32 per week.
Joined public service next year on $33 per week.Worked as a builders laborer in between cleared over $100 wer week. Good old gough days.
hell over 30 years later and I dont have any more spare change than I had then.
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Reply By: Member - laura B (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 22:33

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 22:33
popped into my old work the other day - caltex - and saw a photo of the boos in front of the pricing sign out the front and petrol was 73.9cpl and that was in 1999......the same boss made a very big booboo on sunday and instead of putting vortex98 at 127cpl it was 27cpl - stayed like this for 7 hrs.......take care and actually notice the price next time because friends went home after filling the bikes up .. got the v8 and 44 galon drums and filled up - got about $800 worth for $200 odd.....nice work!!! if i knew he'd stuffed up boy would that 80 be full!!

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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 23:24

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 23:24
From the West Australian newspaper yesterday...

"Oil giant Shell added insult to injury for motorists yesterday by revealing it pocketed staggering profits of $3.5 million every hour last year thanks to runaway oil prices. The Anglo-Dutch group, which operates refineries and petrol stations around Australia, unveiled a £12.93 billion ($30.4 billion) profit for 2005 - the biggest in British history. It follows rival ExxonMobil's whopping $US36.1 billion ($47.9 billion) annual profit, the biggest ever recorded in America."

So basically what we see here is blatant profitering at the expense of motorists around the world.

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:32

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:32
They can charge better than AWBs customers or AWB itself. That is price gouging at it's worst Melissa.
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Follow Up By: Member - ROTORD - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:15

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:15
Melissa

You have fallen for the oldest trick in the journalist's book : report profit without reference to capital outlay . I took the trouble to look up the London Stock Exchange roport on Shell [ Royal Dutch Shell ] . Capital value of the company 217billion pounds , profit as a percentage , about 5.5 to 7.8 , payed as dividends to shareholders . Would I buy shares in Shell to get a dividend of 5 to 8 percent ? Possibly , especially to hedge my fuel bills , but it's hardly spectacular . National Australia Bank bank [with imputation ] pays about 8.4% .
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:25

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 14:25
I remember filling up my 1948 Wolsley at BP Jannali and being charged 23 shillings & only haveing a pound note....
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