Nissan Patrol 3.0td 2001 model

Sue have a look at post No 30269 quite a bit of info there.

Cheers

I tried finding that post for you and man there are so many 3.0l posts!! I'd find a friend with a 3.0l patrol and swap MAF sensors or what's another $250 bucks and go and buy a new one. If' it's not the prob it doesn't hurt to have a spare ;-)

Leroy

Agreed!

It holds a 3 year warranty and it's a 2001 model, therefore, no warranty is applicable due to either 3 years or 100 klms, whichever comes first.

I have also spoken with Nissan Australia who have informed me that financially they are unable to 'help' however, they would be able to provide techinical support via telephone if need be. The vehicle at the moment is not with a nissan dealership, it's with a private diesel & turbo specialist.

Just for the record, I have tried to get my $5,000 back, however, the dealership is arguing that at this stage I am not able to verify that the injector pump was not to blame and unfortunately they do have a point until I can confirm that the injector pump was not the problem, until then I seem to have to keep forking our money..until I can find a 'cure' for this ugly problem!!

I'm confused.. If the Injector pump was not the problem , then why did they replace it??? If they replaced it and the problem is still there then Bingo.. obviously it's not the problem... I don't mean to be rude or insulting, but I think you are being too easy on them. If you had told them to replace the injector to fix the problem, then they have a point, but if they diagnose it, do the work and it doesn't fix the problem.. the problem is then theirs not yours.. Having said that, they have you over a barrel as you have paid.. I think you should take it to ACCC.. Don't get fleeced for $5000..

Hi Shane,

Just for the record, Renault has not been amalgamated with Nissan, but it is a major shareholder and there are technology agreements between them. One of the items provided TO Renault BY NIssan is the ZD30, not the other way around. There is an argument that says Nissan may have been strapped for cash at the time the development and testing of the ZD30 was done but this may never be known for sure. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but you should also keep in mind the 3.0Di is a big seller and there are many many of them running around, the vast majority of which have never had any major issues. I don't think there has ever been a completely faultess vehicle. 4.2 can suffer overheating problems, Turbo Tojo's have run mains etc etc. The reason we are running around with this new technology is mainly because of stricter emission laws which force company's to extract more and more performance out of engines, potentially at the expense of reliability.

Outbacktourer,

I agree with you up to a point, but when you are spending big buck's on a 4WD that is supposed to go off the beaten track you expect reliability, as it's too far to walk home. I do a fair bit of hog hunting & the last thing I want is a vehicle that leaves me stranded in a paddock miles from the homestead. You can't hail a cab or ring a tow truck. You state that the new emission laws are partly to blame for the unreliability, if this is the case why is it that the present Diesel motor in the Terracan (which is sourced from Europe & has been used there for some time) trouble free. I'm sure Nissan can do the same if it wanted. They won't even admit there is a problem with the motor. In regard to Tojo's doing mains, yes your right, but that was the early 80 series, 90-92 , have you forgot the earlier 12HT (bullet proof). We are talking about recent or current model vehicles. I also note that you own a 3 LTR Nissan, so how about being truthfull & tell me of all the prob's that you have encounted with yours ( I said truthfull !) . Cheer's.

"You state that the new emission laws are partly to blame for the unreliability" actually what I said was that " stricter emission laws force company's to extract more and more performance out of engines" It is a sad fact of human nature that whenever changes are introduced there is the potential for error in development, testing or production. What I did not mean is that every engine that complies with new emissions laws is unreliable, sorry for the confusion.
"We are talking about recent or current model vehicles." There are other examples of newer engines with problems Eg: The Gen III Holden V8
"I also note that you own a 3 LTR Nissan, so how about being truthfull & tell me of all the prob's that you have encounted with yours ( I said truthfull !) ". Yes, mine is a 7/02 GUIII I'm very happy with performance and reliability, 2 minor issues fixed under warranty, nothing to do with the engine. 62,000K mainly towing. I have fitted some gauges as a precaution but so far so good.

Seems like the Terracan has a good following, the CRD sounds great, hopefully the next ZD30 will go that way.

Outbacktourer,

The one point I'm trying to get at basically is that with the reputation of the motor, it's like sitting on a time bomb, as such that your waiting for it to go off but don't know when. It doesn't instill confidence in an owner about to embark on a trip worrying as to whether the motor could blow or one of the sensors is going to play up. I appears that these sensors play up all the time & wouldn't be cheap to buy with a vehicle out of warranty. I can understand if these vehicles had a few K's up but it's appearing in vehicles with minimal K's & these should'nt in reality need to have a spanner put to them for at least 200,000 K's. In regard to the Terracan, value for money they are a good buy, could do with a aftermarket suspension upgrade( $800 ) & that's about it. These common rail diesels seem to be the future for power, but I'm not too sure as to the cost of repairing the fuel system when the K's get up & if you break down your buggered in the scrub as you don't know where to start apart from the fuel filter. That's why I feel at home with the trusty 2H, a mountain of power low down , built like a country sh-thouse & unbreakable in the scrub even when used as a part bulldozer.When you look under the 60 Series you notice the steel bash plate on the sump & the thick steel bash plate under the gearbox & tranny case. All the modern stuff including Toyota have flimsy tin plate that serves no purpose but to look good. No they don't make them like they used to. In the 15 years that I have had the Tojo the only problem was the Diff which needed Carrier Bearings & a Pinion seal. This was caused by bulldust chopping out the pinion seal & the diff running on air.. The vehicle is now is now 23 years old, done 250,000 K's & still starts first time hot or cold (not even run in yet). All the best.

I see where you are coming from mate but unfortunately we are all having to go with the flow AFA technology is concerned. FWIW I learnt to drive in a Willy's from the Korean war on the station (western Qld) and graduated to a '68 3 Speed Landcruiser trayback (that used to get stuck in reverse and sagged badly to the Dr side) so I love the basic simplicity of the older stuff. But technology is forcing us to move on. Sure I have suspicions than some sensor or another may get me stranded but I also have a GPS so I know where I am, a moblile phone, a UHF and carry an EBIRB so that if shait turns to clay technology can also come to the rescue. Also FWIW I really do believe the early problems with the ZD30 were production related (piston supplier quality) and anything since is mainly MAF related and picked up by monitoring boost before damage is done. Hope this Gal gets out of trouble with Nissan.

Agreed , as I posted last week , I wouldnt rely on the fault codes the computer spits out , I was booked in to get the injector pump looked at and changed the filter and fixed the fault - was approx the same , random check engine light and power surging.

Would like to think they would have tried the filter for 5k

Glenn

glenn, It was your post I was also trying to find for sue. As I said...sooo many 3.0l threads!

Leroy

We have had the vehicle at the Nissan dealership and they put it on the computer. They were the ones who orginally diagnosed it saying it needed a new injector pump and then the fuel pump housing, so I refuse to take it back to them. So much for the accurate diagnosis. It is currently with a specialist diesel & turbo technician that has the dianostic equipment to handle it (hopefully). The only thing I can confirm is that the motor hasn't failed. Sue

Damn straight... because you are a female (I assume) the mechanics are probably trying to walk right over you assuming you are ignorant.. with the advice and expertice you can tap into on this forum, you are far from that.. stand up for yourself and demand the problem be fixed...

Good to see you're back on line Barb......got the broadband all sorted out now?
Cheers
Roachie

Hi Barb & Pud,

I will mention the alternator to the technician, everything helps at this stage, many thanks, Sue

Thanks Eric, I will give them a call. Sue

Sue let us know how you go with them please.
I know a few people that have rang them and had good results over the phone.

All the best
Eric

We have changed the fuel filter three times now so we presume that's not the problem at this stage, thanks.

If you still have the old filter/s it would be a good idea to cut it/them open and see if they full of algae or any other nasty stuff. If they are clean, no point in keeping on changing them to try to solve this problem.
Cheers
Roachie

already checked, full of algae in element after 20000km. Not my car i change mine every 15000 (td42GU). But thanks for your invaluable input Mr Roach.

We were actually on our way home from a trip and we drove for about 100 klms with the light coming on and off intermittently, along with it running rough at times.

No, as the injector pump was a replacement.