caltex yet to meet standard

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 15:56
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g'day all
have just been reading in the local paper caltex has yet to meet the reduction in sulfur in diesel(kurnell refinery)from 500 parts per million to 50,it expects to do so in the first or second quater of 2006.it has warned purchasers of 2006 diesel vehicles not to buy from caltex or ampol stations in nsw,qld or act.
it has been talked about on this forum that high sulfur in diesel fuel could be a factor in nissan 3.0ltd engine problems,that the motor was introduced into australia to early.if you own a late model diesel draw your own conclusions,i have.

cheers toohey.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:05

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:05
CALLING WAYNE CALL FOR WAYNE! ;)
(he works at kurnell ;) )

>>> if you own a late model diesel draw your own conclusions,i have.
Yep, keep the good old GQ..
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Follow Up By: toohey. - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:27

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:27
g'day truckster
as a 3.0ltd i get pretty down in the mouth when i read about these engine failures and other problems at the moment $$$$$$ prevent me from doing anything about im stuck for some time yet,
YES I AGREE WITH YOU.
cheers toohey.
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:19

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:19
Hey there truckster,
The Diesel Hydrotreater at Kurnell has been offline since well before Christmas. It is undergoing a clean fuels revamp costing 100's of millions of dollars. Its just about a complete rebuild of the unit......We haven't been treating diesel here for months. Never thought to ask what is happening to the raw stuff we are making on the crude unit. When i get back to work i will check. It may be that we are supplying other refineries with the untreated diesel then buying it back treated.
We also have the old Ampol refinery in Lytton, Brissy which has undergone the clean fuels changeover, but I doubt it would be big enough to supply our diesel as well as that of QLD......anyway will see what i can find out...
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:36

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:36
I guess thats one good reason to buy Biodiesel! The problem seems with biodiesel is that there is no standards. I'm a little aprehensive in putting it into my GU 4.2td, just a pump rebuild would set you back a few thousand. Michael
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:38

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 16:38
plenty usin biodiesel, but im glad im not the only one who has reservations about pouring it into the tank!
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:13

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:13
As soon as I get this guys number of my other thread I'm going to bite the bullet and buy a 44 of it. Been tossing up about it for nearly a year now, so bugger it, we'll see what happens.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:25

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:25
hehe, a bit like drinking treated sewerage water, they tell us it's ok but um yeah!
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 18:32

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 18:32
I have just clocked up 200 kms on biodiesel...guage still full..wont start to drop until i hit about 330kms. But from what i have noticed so far, its all good. Engine idles so smooth, Starts immidiately after i turn the key, and its cheaper than diesel at the moment by 9 cents a ltr. Also there is NO smoke out the exhaust when accelerating, thats a good thing.

I have spoken to some diodiesel users in the past week that all have only positives to say about it, 2 of which have already clocked up 10,000 kms on the stuff. 1 was a 80 series and a couple had GQ's. Ill keep you posted if something happens though...am heading off to Danjera Dam this weekend for some 4wd and bass fishing.....should be a good run for the old girl. Fuel filter is still spotless and got a spare just incase.
Ange.
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 18:35

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 18:35
Funny you should mention diesel, Lytton refinery and reused sewage in the one thread.

Lytton used recycled sewage for utilities cooling water.

Biodeisel has to meet specs and usually they are better than fossil fuel. Home made BD is another matter unless you have the correct testing regime.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:59

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:59
How much is treated sewage a litre?? LOL!!
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 08:09

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 08:09
Michael it should be a lot cheaper to get than potable water. At least it keeps it from the Sydney taps which would be another potential useage. Perhaps that has been the previous water direction ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 09:02

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 09:02
secondary treated sewage is free, treating it further to use as utilities water makeup which then requires the normal corrosion/scale/micobiological treatment is probably in the vicinity of $1.50 KL. excluding the later mentioned treatments.

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Reply By: Farside - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:38

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 17:38
I understand that Caltex diesel has a cetane number of 48, does this affect the running of the Patrol (manual asks for 50). Our company has recently moved from BP to Caltex as their fuel suppliers for all their leased cars.
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Reply By: gregr - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:20

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:20
gday toohey
interestingly enough when i traded out of my (no problems yet) 2001 3.0 l td into a 2004 newer model 3.0 l td - the $ 3000 free fuel card that came as part of the deal in june 2005 is a caltex ampol card issued by caltex for nissan and only usable at caltex or ampol servos - so obviously nissan are not too worried about caltex fuel containing sulphur - or maybe they should be ?
i actually prefer to use bp diesel as the beast runs quieter i find on bp fuel
see you greg
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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:44

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:44
Whose diesel is Mobil in Sydney?
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 08:32

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 08:32
and whos diesel does caltex use in Melb/country Vic?

Leroy
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