NEW PATROL 3.5 LITRE TD

Submitted: Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:13
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Has anyone heard any info on the new Patrol range? I priced a new one a couple of weeks ago and the salesman said a 3.5 litre diesel was replacing all the diesel variants.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:47

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:47
and I heard it was 4.8 and a 6.5 and a 4.5 and a 1.0 and a .......
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Reply By: DesC - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:56

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:56
Sounds like a standard answer from a Victorian.
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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:32

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:32
It's hard - having to count in Spanish!
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Follow Up By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:45

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:45
Be nice. At least we can spell desk.

And Collyn is slow on the Rig pic update - where's your new baby?

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 13:49

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 13:49
In the shed. I'm making a few changes. I'm like that - tend to see new things simply as a starting point!
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:07

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:07
I think its all too hard, they added better cup holders last model,, who knows what wonder they will think of next.... maybe triple chrome plated dust caps on all models!!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:22

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:22
maybe they will go with IFS, since its such a winner on the Cruisers..
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Follow Up By: age - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:29

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:29
And maybe we will see a retro "concept" vehicle called a P38 FX just like Toyota did as well
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:42

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:42
Actually you are fairly right as far as 4x4 austrlia are concerned the new patrol is set to be here within the year. Definietly have IFS and will be run on what Nissan calls the Alpha platform which is essentially a navara and pathinda platfrom with another 150mm of steel welded into the cross members. The new patrol was rumored to have 4.5l six, most probably a constant 4wd and smaller running gear to compensate for the loss of power through running the front diff constantly. Toyota are set to fight back with three engine choices, 4.0l VVTI VL (PRADO MOTOR) at around 200KW, a VVTI V8, 200kw plus, and 4.5l twin turbo v8 diesel with approx 220kw and 580nm of torque all motors available in the cruiser in 130 series badging. CANT WAIT!!
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Follow Up By: age - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:48

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:48
I said my last comment in jest, but looked at the Nissan Oz website and found this - nice and blocky like the old patrols. Scary stuff
http://www.nissan.com.au/insideNissan/concepts_crossbow.asp
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:59

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:59
I think it may well be all down hill as far as the patrol goes... sad if so but hopefully not.. Maybe the Defender is starting to look good!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:01

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:01
Agree with you.. considering 90% of 4wd buyers are shopping center mums.. :( I know numerous members of our club are going to work on a bulk buy of current GU 4.2's if Nissan goes IFS! That should see most of these blokes to their graves, they are in their 40's.. ;)

Defender look good? That could never happen Michael.... But at least you never look like you bought last years model. just looks like 1960's!
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:02

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:02
Lets just relax before we start saying a defender looks good (LOL) The patrol on the nissan site looks wrong so horribly wrong. Anyway thats a concept only, I cant wait to see the diehard nissan fans response to the IFS and smaller diffs should be interesting.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:11

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:11
New patrol will look like the Titan in USA, which is similar to the way the new navara looks.

IFS is a cert
engine is the only mystery.. but with the success of the 3.0 falling to bits, they will probably go smaller so it can be even more stressed and die, will also have less power than a pushbike, something nissan seem to be proud of.
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:13

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:13
Words well spoken, little motors can't handle stress. Go the toyotas!
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:59

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:59
I'm just gunna have to REALLY start to pamper my GU now!!!! It's gunna have to see me to my grave (hopefully another 20 years away, if I'm lucky!!).
Now, what was the ph no. of that mob that do V8 heart transplants?
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Follow Up By: Peter McGuckian (Member) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:22

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:22
Roachie,

Do we get a fuel consumption update - it is Friday!

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:55

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:55
G'day Peter,
Too early to say yet......I'm still on the tank/s of fuel I put in when I fitted Mr Fitch's little canister.
Suffice to say the main gauge is between 1/4 and 1/2, sub-tank is still almost full and trip meter is showing 695klm. So, I'm hoping to get to 1000klm from the 2 tanks (175 litres) and then I can I'll fill up and see what the damage is. I always use the same servo and it's hi-flow pump (except when away on a long trip of course), so that part of the equation is a "static" figure anyway.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 22:25

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 22:25
>>>I'm just gunna have to REALLY start to pamper my GU now!!!! It's gunna have to see me to my grave (hopefully another 20 years away, if I'm lucky!!).

Take 3 ton off it and that may help
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Reply By: Member Boroma 604 - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:05

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:05
Why don't you wait till the Jeep Commander appears here with the CRD diesel.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 16:05

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 16:05
That is one ugly car. It could make Amanda Vanstone look attractive by comparison. Hold on, that's going a bit far....

Still, it's not nice of you to have a go at 'Them' when they are in a huddle about 'Their' new IFS, even if it will improve the road manners of the John Deere.

Sssssh, must tippy toe, tippy toe away....don't_ want_ to_ wake_ them.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:52

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:52
If IFS is the way of the future (seems like it is) then what type is it going to be? I mean I've always had IFS 4bies anyway, so no biggy to me. Torsion bars seem the way of the past, but isn't the 120 prado running Mcpherson Struts?? What's the ariculation on struts vs tortion bars, how easy are they to lift/upgrade? Maybe Nissan have got somthing else planned for the IFS in the troll rather than the ol' torsion bar setup... I mean the Hummer uses Independants all round, so it can be done successfully.
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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 16:49

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 16:49
I suspect our next Patrol will be the Armada now available in the US. They don't get a Diesel so the details on that we don't know, the rest I suspect will be the same.

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Follow Up By: age - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 17:58

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 17:58
I think the Armada is F250/Expedition/Suburban size. It is a Titan based wagon in the same manor Oz Pathfinder is similar to Navara here. Titan is a giant truck. They are not built nor plan to be built in RHD. Guess new Patrol will have that corporate look, but certainly not on that platform.
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Follow Up By: sav - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 19:34

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 19:34
The Armada isn't that far removed from the Patrol..
Comparing the numbers:

Armada
Overall length 5255mm
Overall width 2001mm
Wheelbase 3129mm

Patrol
Overall length 4950mm
Overall width 1940mm
Wheelbase 2970mm

I tend to agree that the Armada will be the 'new' Patrol - with the addition of a diesel egine option (sonething the US market wants anyway in the Armada and Titan models).
Nissan have already transplanted the Pathfinder and the Navara from the US market - why would they stop now?
Both of these are based on the F-Alpha platform/chassis (just like the Armada) - and capable of being manufactured out of the same plant in Spain.

Sav.
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Reply By: scottcamp - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 19:52

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 19:52
Hi Everyone,

Have a look at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Patrol
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