Hoons becoming a real problem

>Politicans have got to get their heads around this problem.

No. Parents have got to do that. They have to get off their butts and properly parent their children, give them values, respect and self-worth and spend time with their children not in front of a TV.

People make the society, not politicians.

Mike Harding

Hi Axle,

That's not the best news I've heard recently, but Mike (above) has a point. The parents of these $hitheads need just as much punishment as the delinquents that commit such crimes.
If however you were to find the mongrels who did this, and proceed to nut them to teach them a lesson it is you who would get the wrap over the knuckles by the system??? that's what I think the politicians need to address.
Don't put it past one of your neighbours to have seen or even be able to identify the car or hoons who did this, a doorknock may be a good way to introduce yourself to some of your neighbours and find the mongrels as well.
Good luck and best regards Trevor.

Axle,

Don't give them any excuses. They were probably "cold hard sober".
They are so disenfranchised, they just don't give a fig.
After all, what's the courts going to do to them?

What's required?...simple...corporal punishment. In the home and in the schools.
Nothing like a whack to give a youngster something to think about.

It didn't do me any physiological harm, but sure made me think twice about doing the same thing again.

You know, the teacher I had the most respect for at high school, was the one who wielded the cane now and again. The one you couldn't bluff.

Boy, that was a "few" years ago!

Axle ,
What you say MUST be true . I was caned constantly at school and I have never thrown a rock at a car .
On a more serious note , my condolences .
Willie .

I think everyone has there own views on this one. me i but all the blame right on all the do gooders, like what has been said above you can't touch them without getting into trouble with the law. so you can't blame all the parents. whats all this sh#$%^%t about divorcing your parents when you are only 16-17. i ask you, what is the world coming to. it urks me up. thats my little bit. have a good night all
peter.

A good thrashing didn't do me any harm or any of my generation. We didn't steel cars, we didn't rob the defenceless, we didn't do grafity, we didn't do drugs, we did have a go at alchahole and smoked a bit and most of all we respected our perents, school teachers and women and girls and pederfiles were not heard of.
I was braught up in the eastend of London and during the blitz of London.
All this vandalism started when the government via the dogooders banned corparal punishment and the courts don't help. I would strongly recomend that the age of responsability be lowered so that those little bleep s that commit crimes can be punished and that the older ones be delt with in the adault courts rather than the childrens court.
I do not believe in capitol punishment but after living in Singapore for a number of years where corporal punishment is carried out, there is very little crime. This could not happen in Australia as our pollies do not have the courage to bring in such a bill

I just wish you 'Attila the Hun Disiplinarians' would shut up, because if your type win this argument, I am out of a job. (ROFLMAO)

Oh! to the meek, mild, pacifists of this world - Bring It On I say and let the money flow.

For every action there is an equal but opposite reaction----break my windscreen and just hope that I am not around,that's all I can say.

Axle. sorry to hear it. I think I know some of what you're going through. I've had vehicles stolen and trashed.
Unfortunatly as a society we are reaping what we've sowed.

As the thread indicates, its a complex problem with emotive issues.
As for the "good old days", they didn't actually exist. Crime was just as bad but we didn't have a telly to let us know. Pedophiles abounded, but few of us knew. The first one I heard about frrom my friends was in 1959.The first person arrested in NSW for drugs was a woman in 1946 !

We feared before we learned respect. It kept many of us from harm, or from a wasted life. But there are different degrees of fear. We don't go to work because we respect our boss, we go to work because we fear what happens if we don't.
The spare the rod or belt the kid arguement is old hat. I'm afraid it's too late for that. By several generations. It's a done deal.

Lower the age of criminal responsibility ? Definately, but to where ? I saw a program where parents are training their kids to shoplift at 6 !
Make the parents responsible for the actions of their kids ? Possibly. But in conjunction, make the agencies that place children in their care, responsible for the kids actions. Then lets how many children are pushed under the umbrella of agencies that simply fund them into anti social misfits, because of their "caseload".

On a more positive note there are more researchers paid peanuts trying to cure diseases, more people concerned about the environment, more people trying to do good in this world than at any time in history.

Question. Where did they come from ?

They were the kids that didn't make the news. Most of them still don't. They were the uncool nerds and anti social misfits that had their heads down and tail up in school and university. They didn't smash windscreens. They didn't murder taxi drivers. Many will never have a lot of money, it doesn't rule their universe. There weren't any human rights lawyers when I grew up.

There's a lot to be said for youth, and not all of it's bad.

Sorry about the damage Axle

I SAY BRING THE CANE BACK. I got a good beating when I was a kid at school and at home and I am not to bad these days

It is said "that for every action, there is a reaction".

Unfortunately it no longer applies to the type of problems referred to in the post.
In these days of 'political correctness', even if these vandals are caught there are little or no consequences, so there is absolutely no deterrent to stop them repeat offending.
Children need to be taught, both at home & in school, that if they offend the standards set by our society, then there will a reaction, & they will be punished.
The lame old excuse of "we have got nothing to do" just doesn't cut ice.

true story.
2 weeks ago some one decided to shyte on the bonet of the bosses car.
last week some one decided to number one all over the bosses car.
and no it wasnt my job to clean it up thats why we have a tom.
who know why they do such stupid things and lets see how agro they get in 20 yrs when it happens to them.
cheers

With all the contraversy of some of these replies, you'd want to be pretty sure your windscreen wasn't smashed by a small meteorite!

I recall those sorts of problems every night in all the years i lived in Bourke but they were not Hoons but sounded similar.

Sorry to hear that Axle but its a never-ending problem. I recall the absolute seething rage I felt when my sons bike was vandalised at the pool, he was upset I was ready to maim! Know who did it too but the police are hamstrung to a large extent. Kids down the street stole a friends bike and repainted it (with stolen paint probably) and then rode it past his house. When the wallopers were told they said they HAD TO PROVE it was theirs.......

I reckon "responsible" people should be given a 007 licence in the neighbourhood and allowed to help the gene pool out from time to time, now wouldnt that be a job.