Troopy power...not

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 15:08
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Took the beast for it's first test run towing the trailer last weekend and have
noticed it is losing power, like quick misfires, feels like fuel starvation.

More noticeable in 2nd and 3rd around the 3000rpm range and worse
going up hill under load.

Any ideas?

John
'02 78 TD
60k
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Reply By: traveller2 - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 15:10

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 15:10
When was the last time the fuel filters were changed, sounds like it is starving, not good as the injector pump requires a good steady flow of fuel to both lubricate and cool it.
Air cleaner last changed?
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Reply By: Geoff M (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 15:18

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 15:18
Same answer as TroopyOz, change the fuel filters since Toyota have been too lazy to do them.
Then see how it goes,

"> I looked at the fuel filters and they have never been changed, no
> marks on the nuts and rust around the ring. Should happen at
> 20/40/60. Would this clogg the injectors?"

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Reply By: cabbageoz - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:23

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:23
More likely to be spark plugs and/or plug leads than fuel
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Follow Up By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:53

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:53
Bugger!
I've never changed the plugs or leads on my 98 TD in 230K, maybe that's why it's blowin' all that black smoke!
Reckon you could let me know where they are so I can go change them?

Avagoodn
Pezza

P.S. Sorry, I really couldn't help myself :-)))
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:53

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:53
Have a look at how signed off, no plugs and leads, LOL
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Reply By: WheelTravel - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:29

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:29
I have an idea...

You should have bought mine...

Just Kidding...

But it is at $39990 now, with everything!!!

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Follow Up By: Member - Ozdyssey (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:19

Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:19
Hey... $39k!!, when you had it at $48k - didn't we say we could only look at it for $45!

Ah well ... it'll go now. Good luck with it mate.

Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 15:16

Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 15:16
Yes... well I'm an idiot...

Panels have gone... sorry...

Drawers... Water tank... cargo barrier... roof racks... still available...

Cheers Mate.. enjoy the Trip...
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Reply By: Axle - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:33

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:33
Hi Ozdyssey
Sounds like fuel stavation to me , but by sucking air. Injectors would have to be totally stufed to play up like that.
My 10c input

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: hopscotch - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 20:35

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 20:35
Hi Ozdyssey,

Just an idea but worth looking at your fuel tank to see if there is any quantity of water present. In our climate it is not unusual to find that condensation has built up to the point where the pump is pulling minute quantities of water into the injectors. Do you have a water trap in the line?
The other thing which happens when there is water in the tank is a build up of clad (like a fungal growth) which can form a light slimmy coating on your filters. Again one of the symtoms is 'missing' under power.
Went to your profile to see if I could answer this 'off forum' and noticed the pic of the ZR. From what I can see this is a dead ringer for ours which was the first of the ZRs and I thought the only one built with the bent stone guard. I have been thrilled with ours. Does a great job.

Kevin J
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Reply By: Vivid Adventures - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 21:47

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 21:47
Hi Ozdyssey,

I picked up a load of fuel with high water content at Dalby in December - the Queensland Fuel Group roadhouse.

They promised to look into it - never came back to me at all.

I have no doubt about where it came from - I was bone dry at Dalby and had never had a fuel issue previously. Fuel filter was a few weeks and 3000km old.

Ended up draining the fuel filter on the road in from Toowomba and a few times after that - probably 1 litre or so in 108 litres.

They did claim that their fuel was from Caltex anyways as most of the diesel in Queensland ... sobbed that if they had water in their tanks all the truckies who fill up there all day (apparently biggest fuel stop this side of the black stump).

Don't trust the fuel supply - look at your fuel filter - or have it done, and check out the water and/or sediment in it.

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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Reply By: Member - Ozdyssey (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:22

Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:22
Thks all

I think I'll try check all those points and find a trusted independant Toyo mechanic in Brisbane or is that an oxymoron.
John
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 20:46

Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 20:46
Don't go to toyota... you will have a first or 2nd year working on your car... unless it's under warranty...

Find a good diesel mechanic...

Do you mind me asking what you ended up getting and how much?

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Ozdyssey (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 21:20

Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 21:20
found an 11/02 TD, 11 seater (now 2), 60k, ex Qld Rail - $42k - wasn't bad considering book was $41,500.

have spent a couple of 100 on mods though ;-)
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