Outback radio reception
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 22:35
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Al-one
Hello everyone,
I apologise if this post appears twice
When you are in the really remote regions of Australia what do you do for radio reception? I know most of the new caravans are fitted with car radio receivers but has anyone used a portable radio that offers high sensitivity for AM reception. I know Dick Smith has couple of Sangeans that are supposed to be Ok but I haven't spoken to anyone who actually owns one. One radio is an all band short wave receiver with AM/FM and the other is a Digitor (by Sangean) advertised as a long distance AM radio. I would appreciate advice on (1) which brand of car radio is good these days for radio reception and (2) which brand or type of portable radio works
well in the bush. I know that to increase range on AM you need a long aerial and all the portables I have come across only have an internal aerial for the AM band. I would appreciate 'first hand' experience on the radios.
Cheers,
Al-one
Reply By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 23:18
Thursday, Feb 16, 2006 at 23:18
Al-one
I have a Sangean ATS 505.
It's not a bad radio and does a better job than the average in picking up radio stations but I don't think its the bees knees. I know I could for example I could pick up the
Melbourne ABC (774) in
Canberra in the evenings but not really clearly. Just enough to hear the AFL broadcast.
I have a Radio/Cd player fitted in my caravan and that is just average. No different from the normal car radio. I know my Sangean is better than that. I intend to pick up an aerial for it from Dick Smith for my FNQ jaunt coming up.
Toolman
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:47
Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:47
A very large aspect of radio reception is in the antenna. Get a good signal to it and even a cheap radio can do
well. For AM (ie, medium waveband) reception the simplest decent antenna is a long wire - the longer the better and the higher the better. Try to get at least 10m of wire in the air (20 would be better), ensure _none_ of touches the ground, caravan, car etc. Use some nylon string at the end of it to tie it to a tree branch or similar. Strip the end of the wire and insert it into the antenna socket of your radio. If the radio doesn't have an antenna socket (then don't strip the end) wrap about 7 or 8 turns of the wire tightly around the base of it's telescopic antenna and secure with tape or similar.
As for radios – the Sangean is… OKish… mutter mutter :) but not a patch on a top quality short wave receiver. I have owned a Sony 7600 for 13 years which is still going strong and is able to resolve SSB transmissions even – so you will be able to receive the VKS737 network on it. In all respects it is far superior to any other domestic radio I have owned – many others say the same. However it’s almost quite a bit more expensive. I cannot recommend it highly enough.
http://www.tecsun.com.cn/radioclub/sony/Sony-ICF7600GR.htmhttp://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sony-ICF-7600-Shortwave-Radio_W0QQitemZ5867381345QQcategoryZ15051QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/New-Sony-ICF-7600-FM-Stereo-Multi-Band-World-Band_W0QQitemZ7588256267QQcategoryZ15053QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:42
Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:42
A good way to get the wire in the air is to attach a light strain fishing trace with a sinker attached.
Hoist this as high as you can into a tree and when moving on , if wire does not come down easily the trace is easily broken for retrieval of wire.
Pedro
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Reply By: kesh - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:50
Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:50
I have a Sangean ATS 803A receiver, also an Icom communications receiver with all the bells and whistles.
In reality, there is not much to choose between the two in actual receiving performance as tested using the same antenna.
The Sangean has continuous coverage, 150kHz - 30mHz. plus fm. The BFO allows tuning of sideband reception so all 3.5,7,14 mHz amature bands etc. can be listened to plus VHS737. It has timed switch off, on and up to 12 channels by push button. LCD display, operates on 6D size batteries but I plug in a 12-9v. adaptor from the van electrics.
The external antenna connection over rides the internal one, using a long wire we get very good all band reception in the W.Qld. channel country. (often listen to VKS traffic on the CSR)
Gets a very good thumbs up from me.
kesh
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Follow Up By: Al-one - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 20:28
Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 20:28
kesh,
Who did you get the Sangean ATS 803A from? I don't think Dick Smith stocks this model Sangean.
Cheers,
Al-one
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:41
Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:41
Listen to the news as I go through towns.
Otherwise the wife, who is a radio (ABC) addict, goes without.
I just enjoy a good book and catch up when we get back :-).
I thought we went away (as in leave, depart, not participating any more, back to basics) so to get a break from these gadgets and technology and pressures of modern life. :o)
Do you need to know the latest thing Johhny Howard has denied?
(Now where is my PDA with my latest ebook on it? Must remember to pack it.)
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Reply By: kesh - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 21:12
Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 21:12
Al-one. I bought the Sangean about 16yrs. ago from an electronic store in
Bathurst which I am sure no longer exists. At the time there was a similar unit with a tape deck but not quite the overall gadgetry (ssb reception etc.) of the one I bought.
Sorry I cant be more helpful. I have the original manual, which is most comprehensive including the full circuit diagram, but no mention of the au. importer or distributor.
As I said, this model is excellent for our requirements, we are avid ABC listeners of an evening, such stations as 1548
Townsville, 702 Syd. 576 Rad. Nat. come in without fade at our location NW
Eromanga.
cheers the kesh
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:50
Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:50
Al-one,
Some great reponses above, with heaps of info.
As I've spent the last 40 years in NT, and western Qld, have always been chasing the "ultimate" AM receiver, as enjoy the news, and some music. Have a Bearcat HF receiver, which is big, and is not always happy with the dry, western climate-bad RF noise, with long wire aerials.
Apart from old model Eurovox am/fm receivers(don't know what the newies are like), the best AM receiver would have to be the radio/cassettes, provided in toyota troopies and 79 series utes. These are made by Fujitsu, and have excellent AM reception, when coupled to a Mobile One (Axis is another brand) am/fm whip aerial, 1500mm long. These look like a 27 meg aerial, but are designed for broadcast bands.
Have picked 3SR, in Victoria, while travelling south of
Winton Q. Time of year will always dictate how good reception is too. While working in Kimberly, about 1968, was able to pick 2UW regularly every evening, during August that year, using a Sony receiver, and about 100M of wire strung from tree to tree. We were camped at a place called Milligans Lagoon, if anyone knows that area.
The Dick Smith catalogue used to have all the am frequencies in the info section.
Hooroo...
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Follow Up By: kesh - Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 16:10
Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 16:10
Bob Y : have to agree with you there. The one supplied as original in our '97, 75 series tray back has always been excellent.
Quilpie to
Windorah then all the way up to
Winton 585
Bourke radio is clear as a bell.
Longreach ABC always good, NSW regional as
well.
My comments however are more to do with a "camp" set up, something to listen to instead of the always interesting night sounds.
Home at the moment, and bloody missing our mining
camp! (too hot still)
kesh
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