Results from 1st biodiesel tank

Submitted: Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 18:40
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Ok here are the figures for my first tank.

Distance travelled : 950 Kms
Ltrs per Kms : 13.26.

Considering i did quite a bit of low range 4wding over the weekend plus i really pushed it heading home (drove it hard) I am very happy with it. If i dont do another weekender on this tank, I should have a better idea of how far i can take this tank of biodiesel.
Have a great weekend all.
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Reply By: Member - David 0- Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 19:23

Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 19:23
I am guessing that is L/100k

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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 22:16

Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 22:16
Yes David ..sorry mate .... its ltrs per 100.
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 21:35

Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 21:35
How's that compare with a tank of normal diesel in similar conditions?

Max
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 22:19

Friday, Feb 17, 2006 at 22:19
Hi Max, at this stage its hard to say really. Only way i can conpare it properly would be when i use a full tank in normal driving conditions, eg...without offroading, will attempt to find out with this tank i filled up today. But going from what i did on my first tank, i am in front.
Hope that helps
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Reply By: desert - Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 13:12

Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 13:12
On the face value of it, it does not appear to be much different.I have got those same figures on normal diesel in the 4.2 GU. A previous 4.2 GQ was much better on fuel, around the 11.5 to 12 lts/100 mark. But until you drive the exact same route in the exact same conditions it is purely speculation I'm afraid.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 15:08

Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 15:08
Your missing the point here im affraid. Its not about fuel economy at all. Its not a miracle fuel. The advantages of using biodiesel are very good long term for both my engine and the enviroment. Pollution free for starters and some amazing improvements in the way things are working now. For my money, i am miles in front with it.
I am not here to persuade anyone to use it, thats not why im keeping some members informed, fact is some people are interested to know how it stands up. I dont mind being the one to try it. Its been around for years, in fact diesels were designed to run on it way back when it all began.

The proof will come over the next couple of tanks for me. I have an oil change due in 1000 kms and thats when i will start to see some huge advantages as far as my oil goes. I have heard from people who have used it for more than 20,000 kms that their oil works cleaner and longer because they are using it.
The advantages of running my car on it out number the cons by a mile. Im looking forward to my first 4 tanks of the stuff, by them i will be convinced its well worth it or at worst i will go back to the old fuel. My advantage is, I do same roads every day in mine so comarisons will come easy. OK forget the fact that i went away for a weekend, that really threw a spanner in the works as far as comparisons go but in time i will know for sure.
But I am already convinced beyond a doubt that it is worth it for me. Improvements in my GQ are amazing, she feels fantastic to drive now, much more responsive between throttle variations than she was before.
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Reply By: NUTS! - Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 13:32

Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 13:32
Hey cokeadict, how much do you pay for the bio from the bowser?

Cheers
NUTS!
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 15:11

Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 at 15:11
Hey nuts,
It cost $1.24 p/l for the B100.
thats a saving of $13.00 for 126 ltrs on todays diesel prices. It all adds up
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 13:32

Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 13:32
Well my first 44 Gallon drum of Briodiesel should arrive tomorrow, paid $1.10 per litire with free delivery, but the price was not the entire reason for using it, as you say, better for the envrionment, better for the truck and better for australian farmers instead of oil mungers!

Glad to here it's working out for you, i will hopefully have the same success! Looking forward to it! how does your exaust smell?? Does it make you hungry? I used to follow a test bus home from work for years that was running on Biodiesel and it always made me SO HUNGRY by the time I got home... MMMmmmmm - Fish and Chips...
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 14:27

Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 14:27
Hi Jeff,

Where did you source your drum in the end?

Ciao for now
Andrew smelling sweet like the fish and chip shop.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 18:07

Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 18:07
Hi Jeff,
Actually there is a def hunger smell comming from somewhere. You think its got something to do with the seagulls following me around now?

I think you will be impressed...let us know how it goes mate.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 21:59

Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 21:59
There's a guy just out of Perth that's been making it and selling it for over a year now, my only concern is quality control, however if he's been going for over 12 months it can't be that bad, plus it can't be any worse than some of the dodgy old servos around here!! I used to sell security cameras to a lot of the servo chains and you'd be amazed how often water leaks into the tanks and they don't realise for days!! Plus how long have some of those tanks been under the ground!! Anyway, I belive he's dropping it off in person so I'll have a chat to him and sus him out tomorrow.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 22:10

Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 at 22:10
Cool. Good for him and hopefully for you.

WA has a strong home brew scene with some good inputs from one of the Universities.

It'd be interesting to know if he participates in the www.biofuelsforum.com forums and what his reactor setup and stock is ... what's he make it from - what's he make it with.

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Monday, Feb 20, 2006 at 23:36

Monday, Feb 20, 2006 at 23:36
Got my drum of biodiesel today, nearly had a full tank so could only get about 15L in, but thought "what the hey, might as well top it up". Amazing how it already smells quite strongly like fried food even with the low percentage mix! Car's running no different (as expected). I'm going to go and pickup a spare fuel filter just in case tomorrow and leave it in the tool box.
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:55

Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:55
Hi Jeff,

There's certainly some advantages in using biodiesel over the used vege oil blend I use.
I'm finding it a bit time consuming heating and filtering the oil at the moment, but it doesn't cost me anything. Whereas you get yours delivered and can use it straight, but you have to pay. I'll have issues when the weather gets colder unless I instal tank heating, whereas the cold weather won't make any difference to you.

Did the guy say how much he produces? By the way, don't sniff the fuel too much, the methonal is pretty poisonous.

Tim
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:40

Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:40
Come on Tim,

The B100 will not contain methanol - I think by definition.

The methanol drops out with the glycerin as a by-product in the production - it does need to be recovered from the glycerin is you want to use it for human purposes (like for soap etc.).

BTW, not all B100 production processes utilise methanol - some use ethanol.

Have you modified your system (injectors etc.) for the vege oil blend you are using?

Ciao for now
Andrew
Vivid Adventures smelling like fish and chips
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:20

Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:20
Andrew,

Having not made biodiesel myself, only sat around a table at the renewable fuels group and heard this warning from those that do make it themselves, I can't argue the chemistry - I failed it in year 12 anyways.

No changes to injectors, no intention to. I've installed a BPHE prior to the lift pump, though may change it so it heats the oil prior to the CAV filter, not after it. I'm not running 100%WVO at the moment, something less than 50%, so am not too concerned about heated tanks or injector mods yet.

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Tim
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:22

Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:22
Let's try those links again.
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