The Phoenix rises from the Ashes

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As posted yesterday,post 31086, the 15lt plastic bodied Engel passed away. It stopped working in the car and no amount of cajoling could get it to run..

This morning however, it works on 240volt and is now a beer fridge in my shed and running sweetly although the body has some rattles.

Even the thermostat is till cutting in when the right setting is reached.

Long live the Engel!!
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:22

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:22
Bet you couldn't sleep last night until you tried to resuscitate your old Friend. LOL
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:08

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:08
After chatting with you I fell asleep...wonder why...LOL

Nice house you have(in your Rig Pic). Must come and visit you some day.

Do I drive east or west from my place? :o)
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:25

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:25
Its strange it doesnt work on 12 Volt mine did similar and it was a dirty 12v connection at rear.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:42

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:42
Stuffed cig socket in rear of Xtrail...lol
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Reply By: Member - Tony G (ACT) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:39

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:39
Just goes to show you, you carn't kill em with a big stick. Or is that a big Willem.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:43

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:43
Both...lol
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Reply By: Geoff M (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:42

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:42
Great to hear of the second coming!
That's entirely feasible it'd run on 240 volt AC and not 12 volt DC.
From memory the Engel Schwing compressor runs on about 20 or 30 volts AC. Easy to do straight from 240 volts AC, all you need is a transformer.
Not so easy from 12 volt DC, you need an inverter. Sounds like the inverter may have lost its smoke.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:11

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:11
Geoff

It seems that it is the cig socket in the back of the Xtrail. Although I have had some issues in the past when the Engel would only work on 240volt.

At one stage I did lots of fiddling with the wiring to get it going again
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:09

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:09
Watch out for the furtive lurkings of the WIA (Waeco Intelligence Agency) Willem. They can't have Engels running well for this long - bad for market share - something might happen up there......might be made to "look like an accident".
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:13

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:13
Hmmm might have to find a lock for the shed???
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:13

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:13
Willem.

I can just picture you this morning.
In you laboratory.
The power hooked up and the paddles at the ready.
STAND CLEAR!!!! Kapow????

It lives, it lives.

Maybe you need a lightning rod installed.
That way you can bring other things back to life.

Hay,,,, that could be a good theme for a movie.

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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 14:36

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 14:36
Ha ha ha - I needed a laugh today - and it rained a little bit this morning, enough to think - 'I'll just lie here for a bit longer until it stops raining, and it did, about 5 minutes later.'
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Follow Up By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 14:55

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 14:55
Hi Ruth.

Talk about extremes.

When we were last there, you were ankle deep in mud. 5 or 6 months?

Don't you think Willem would make a great mad scientist?
Just check out the wiring in his 4by.

I will see you on or about 1st of May.
Heading bush with an ex mate (after my comments above) of mine ;-)
I may need your help to link up with others heading west at that time.

Cheers and see you in May.
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Follow Up By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 15:05

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 15:05
Oooooh, that ex-mate. Well, he invited us to join you and we are seriously thinking about meeting up after return from the middle and just doing the southern part.
Happy to help though of course finding mates and ex-mates for you. LOL.
Please don't remind me about that mud - yes would be that long ago and the last REAL rain I think.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 15:11

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 15:11
Careful Ruth all those titles will go to His Majesty's head causing his crown to slip over his eyes further causing him to trip over the offending Engel and really busting the thing so he can mo longer use it as a garage beer fridge.
Then he would be pi$$ed.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:48

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:48
Hahaha Ruth

You'll keep!

Lots of nice soft rain here. Measured 30mm since Thursday morning.

Thunder is driving Jeddah nuts!!

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:54

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:54
Mad cat afficionado............
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:16

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:16
Quote: "although the body has some rattles".......................

Are you still talking about the old Engel at this stage Willie????? hahahaha

I reckon you'd have a case to go to your nearest Engel dealer and ask for a new fridge to replace this bloody lemon you've obviously got on your hands. Fancy a fridge only lasting 20 some years.....it's unthinkable.

Now, as for your venture into the "darkside".....make sure you keep the 1800 number for their warranty claims area REAL handy, cos if other owners are anything to go by, you're gunna be on first name terms with a few of their lovely people....(but I hope I am wrong).

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Follow Up By: Sargent Dan - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 13:47

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 13:47
hahaha, right on Roach. With all the Waeco problems it's a wonder they sell any...dear o dear o dear...just for a the sake of a few hundred, and they still kid themselves
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:58

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:58
Roachie

All me own rattles have been cured, remember?

Waeco is running sweetly in the rear of the toy car. Some initial worries like flashing lights etc but all sorted...one just needs to read the instructions...lol

The Waeco is very finicky about power supply and I will have to hardwire it, I think.

So now I still have a 20yo Engel, a 4yo Engel and a 2do Waeco.
Will see how we go

Hey Sargent,

When ya on a pension 200 smakeroos makes a big difference.

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Reply By: Member No 1- Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:23

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:23
fault must be on 12v side of circuit before magic black box eh?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 14:31

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 14:31
maybe some bust up gum on the 12v side would spring it back to life

amazing stuff
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:59

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 17:59
Crook cig socket in back of toy car
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:06

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:06
Good God, so after all that the Engel lives. You should be working for the news media Willem, you are good at making the news :) never mind you add interest
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:16

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:16
Engel, Lazarus, Phoenix all the same names...lol
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Saturday, Feb 25, 2006 at 16:05

Saturday, Feb 25, 2006 at 16:05
so you have two toy cars?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Feb 25, 2006 at 18:58

Saturday, Feb 25, 2006 at 18:58
Member No 1

Yes but the 2nd Toy car goes where fridge mechanics in 100 series Tojo's fear to tread....lol
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Reply By: Member - John L G - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:41

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:41
Willem

Congratulations - Thats the oldest trick in the book.

Reporting to SWMBO " Darling, the fridge is broken and to keep your veg and milk cold will have to buy 'YOU', (emphasis on you), a new fridge".

Purchase done and the old fridge miraculously springs back to life.

Well done to an "Old Dog" using "Old Tricks".

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:01

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:01
SWMBO though that was very funny.

Thing is the fridge was in need of replacement and I needed a beer fridge in the workshop...lol
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Reply By: ev700 - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:47

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:47
Over time this should become delightful gossip for Waeco urgers to relate on this and other forums.

Along the lines of:

"...Reports of dozens of Engels being returned through electrical failures.." or

"Was talking to a repairer in 'X' town who had scores of Engel inverters and said he replaced 100 Engel inverters for every one Waeco - but he hadn't had a Waeco go wrong in the forty years he has been an expert" or

"Reports and pictures in a 4WD site about a bloke who was stranded kilometres from anywhere by an Engel fridge. Because he couldn't get a tow to the safety of a 240V extension lead he had to eat 20 kilos of prime rump in one sitting so it wouldn't go off".

It is all a question of spin. Should be fun. : )
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:04

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:04
Yes, remember that post about a friends mate who reported someone seeing a workshop full of Toyotas front diffs...or something like that...LOL
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:47

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:47
My mate was stuck behind an Engel at the corner of Punt and Bridge Rds in Melbourne just as it let go, white smoke everywhere. He swears he saw a Waeco owner drive by and smile.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 20:48

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 20:48
It is the IFS (internal freezing system) in Engels that just lets go. You can see heaps of them along the deserted stretch of road between Nissan Crossing and Waeco Bend, just off Blarney Point.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 21:09

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 21:09
Thats just crazy talk EV, you know better than anyone, that Blarney Point is unreachable at high tide
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 16:49

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 16:49
Had a similar problem with my old 30 litre engel.
26 years old at last count.
Only time it has played up was the 12v circuit about 8 years ago.
Trying to remember if was a 12v connection or a fuse, but it was something like that. I think that was the only time the back cover was off, so did a service while Iwas there.
An engel service involves blowing a bit of compressed air around to stir up the dust.
Not much elese to service exepct to make a few screws are tight.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:05

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 18:05
Yeah most of the screws in the Phoenix have rattled out...lol
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 21:10

Friday, Feb 24, 2006 at 21:10
So the King is risen from the dead ,Long live the King !!! and the Queen {waeco} is to await in perpetual calm for the next oportunity to asert her regal superiority , Long live King Engle ,Savior of The Realm Known as Beer For Willem. HipHipHooray!!
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