The RANT thread...

Submitted: Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:08
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RANT POST.........AD YOUR OWN RANTS AT WILL

I write this just because. Because there are too many people in the aftermarket auto industry in all levels that make things hard for newcomers, try to make a quick buck, and do what ever possible to get some free bread.

I am new to the world of 4wd, why? I lived in America for a long time, I built very fast old cars…it’s the thing to do there. America really does not need 4x4’s at all (except for a VERY small few who require them), they generally have no purpose except as a American homophobic status symbol. (Hummer…what a waste!!!)

Well I’m here now ( have been for a while) and I don’t need a fast old American car to make me smile, the necessity is roving the rugged earth with no worries....to get form point A to B with a big azz smile on my face…I need to build a real 4wd. I may know mechanics, engine efficiency and the American performance industry, but do I know the advanced details about 4wd performance?…NO!

This is fine though, it how we learn and I luv to learn. However, WHAT THE HELL IS WITH YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO TRY AND SQUEZZE WATER OUT OF ROCKS and rip off the people who are trying to learn something new. I don’t frick’n know about highly engineered lifts (I know about drops), I don’t tune for low-end (I tune for ¼ mile), I don’t know about articulation (I know about weight transfer/ tyre grip) etc, etc. DON’T YOU IDIOTS REALIZE ¾ OF THE PEOPLE YOU RIP OFF WOULD HAVE BEEN A RETURN CUSTOMER!!!! I wish I had the time to research more so I didn’t have to “take someone’s word” but rebuild times are huge.

It’s the same way in the States. If you want to build in a genre you have to equate in %15 loss to azz holes….STOP IT!!!! STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:23

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:23
you finished ?

first Aussie lesson , stop your winging and do some homework .

You probabably walked in bragging how you built the fastest car blah blah blah and the guy in the shop thought , ok , this guy wants a serious off roader ,

Then you figred out , how much dearer thing are here in oz lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:28

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:28
Amazing - build a 4x4 you must be joking!. We buy them here in Oz mate....not make em (so they tell me...)

You go into the car shop - say to the nice man I wanna buy a fourby and he sells it to ya - or rips ya off....LOL :)))
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:59

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:59
I "just walk in" and try to get the TRUTH! Without having to be sucked into a drama via having to return an inferior product.
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:01

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:01
the whole story would be nice , intead of snippets .

were , what part ? what went wrong .

Geees get with the program son lol
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Reply By: Exploder - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:30

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:30
Right I get the feeling that you are a little bleep off.

This is what these sorts of forums are for

Ask the question and you will get a verity of answers and opinions from people who drive all sorts of 4WD with diffrent setup's and you will learn what you need to know and know the right people to go to, to get the stuff done.

Don’t know how long you have been hear but first thing you will find with anything automotive, especially for Pro-Formance car’s and 4WD’s is chit isn’t cheep

First up

What 4WD do you have and with what engine
How much lift do you what or more to the point need.
What do you need the 4WD to do?

Well at least you have found out that most 4WD shops don’t have good customer service. LOL
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:50

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:50
Ok then:

1983 Patrol MQ
253 holden red 4bl
3' ext dual
stock clearance
dual fuel

The project (for now)

510 Dinosaur dropping in
need trans to handle
need 450mm clear from LPG tank
need to communicate with someone who can read a blue print!

"what do you need you 4wd to do?" Go here...Go there :)
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:10

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:10
1983 MQ and you want to run a elephant 510 lol and you are conserned about cost ? lol

for starters if i can go by the weight of my 502 in caddy , I an tell you that its going to take more than a few bucks here to get part RTA ( road traffic authority ) .

Questons ,

1/ standard crate engine or HP ?

2/ do you want to drive it on the streat ?

3/are you willing to trow 15 to 20 k into the project ?

before you spend your bucks , havea look at saudi arabi , there are heaps of trucks there , already done with 540's and 8/71 ect ect.

Anything can be done , if your willing to give it a go .

answer some of these questions , and we might be able to help.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:28

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:28
Ok I will bite, This better not be another one of those bord Prank internet posters looking for Amusement.

1. First up a 253 is a pretty good pulling motor to start with. 510Ci are you serous you will need a 300ltr Fuel tank minimum to take it anywhere out of the metro aria.

If I were you I would look at working the 253 a little or dropping in a late model Fuel injected 308 Holden or 302-ford engine, if you get your hands on a Late 2002 Tick ford 5LTr with the GT40 heads you looking at 220KW with 420Nm of toque with a new Pro-Formance cam Valve sprig’s Extractors and 1.7 roller rockers you will push that to 250Kw+ Chip it and get some more head work done / aftermarket heads and who know where you will end up. Or even an early Gen 3 V8 225Kw, it’s a 4WD how much power do you need.

Personally I would go a 6.5 Chevy diesel.

Get a 5Ltr Ford racing crate motor I could go on but you do not need 510Ci of engine in a 4WD!!!.

For 302 or 308 and 6.5 option you can get gearbox adaptor plates to take the convention I believe.

2. 4-inch lifts with some 33 or 35’s will get you just about anywhere you want to go

3. For Diffs ARB Air Locker in the rear and Detroit up front

Good luck getting that approved for road use as well by the way.

I would call the good people at 4WD monthly they would be more than happy hear from you and will do a story on you 4WD too I bet!!
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:36

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:36
Rock how the hell did you get a 68 caddy in OZ...is it right hand drive?
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:42

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:42
its a 1970 deville roadster , white on white ( boss hog special lol )

have owned the car for 14 years now , restored it when i first got it , needs a little tlc again and its getting it this winter. Nothing serieous , new soft top is on order and minor body touch ups , other than that its pretty tip top.

yes right hand drive
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:50

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:50
Nice Rock, right drive Caddy... I have never seen one since I've been here.

Seeing this whole "rant" thing is totally out of controle I might as well speak some car before this thread implodes.

Had a 58' Olds, Eighty Eight that ran beach runs when it was new (lived in Daytona) all original race set: J-2 option, three speed on the collum, no radio just a plate, 12 bolt posi...

That car payed from my trip here....best investment i ever made!

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/

Later on...this thread is trash.
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:01

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:01
had a 72 eldorado , but couldnt stomac the front wheel drive , was funny to see a 2o foot caddy smoke the front wheels thow lol . when I was a young buck . I had restored a 1970 fastback , wish I had it now .
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Reply By: brian - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:40

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:40
Go home toooo much yank crap here now,go back to the country you have helped to destroy,you dont offer anything positive here
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:53

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:53
great it's ppl like you I ran away from...your real home is in the States...you just dont know it yet!
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 17:02

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 17:02
hahaha...thats telling him numatic ...i like that hahaha
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:55

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 20:55
I would make he point that the retailers of lift kits try as hard as they can to supply lifts which are legal according to OUR STATE RAODWORTHY REGULATIONS.

Sounds like you walked in "knowing everything", and walked out relizing you knew nothing.

Simple answer 1: research you topic.

Simple answer 2: listen, rather than talk

Simple answer 3: think rather than talk

Simple answer 4: ASK rather than talk

Simple answer 5: treat people with the respect you would hope to recieve yourself

From the tone of your post, I think we all know which side of the counter had the azz hole on it......

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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:04

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:04
you see....this is the problem...prejudgement

I do not walk in knowing every thing!!...did not I just say I know NOTHING ABOUT 4WD!!!!

I am pray....I can not be screwed if I buy engine products...but I can be screwed if I buy almost anything else 4wd becouse I KNOW NOTHING!!!
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 22:20

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 22:20
"...you see....this is the problem...prejudgement..."

So....every place that you walk into, both here and in the US seems to prejudge YOU, and only seems interested in taking your money, eh????? Mmmmm...'kay. I think we can see where the prejudgement comes in......

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Read "Simple answer" 1, 1, 1, 4, 2 and 5, in that order.

If you haven't got the time to do "1" then expect to be taken for a ride as a timewaster, you are CHOOSING to be ignorant.

No one will bite your head off if you say "Please explain".
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Reply By: brian - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:01

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:01
pnuematic Australia is too good for you KEEP RUNNING find a wet rock and get under it....
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Reply By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:09

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:09
You know, I had a rant...I thought it would be fun. Aftermarket parts is worse than poker, it's a gamble. My issue was the aftermarket industry not where I lived. The American reference was only a viewpoint to the real story.

You all have racial issues!
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:14

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:14
issues ? you come in half cocked , with half a story that makes no sence , you have answered none of the questions to the people who tried to help yet we have the issues .

Bloody hell

Mate , do you want help or not ?

or is this a crap post ?
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:26

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:26
for sure help would be nice Rock...just trying to rough (smooth) out the static that had arisen.

My most important issue is knowledge on front suspension linkages. I need to convert from leafs to coils without losing steering geometry...I need this info in paper form to understand it....
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:33

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:33
ok , you might not like the idea , but whynot up grade to a GQ , at least this issue is taken care off , I cant see money been the issue , since you want to go with some serieous yankie musle.

if it must be a MQ , then transplant the shell on a gq chassis . this way you avoid a very expensive and in my eyes ,pointless exersise . No Ptrol box will handle the torque of a 510 , you will have to go Yank box with adapter for the transfer case.

hope this helps some what .

I have been modifing 4by's for a while , so if yuu need any info I can be contacted by email

wholesalecars AT optusnet DOT com DOT au
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:40

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:40
will do...ty Rock!
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:54

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:54
"RANT POST.........AD YOUR OWN RANTS AT WILL" - well you asked for it. You should know by now that the strong survive and the week (or inexperienced) are fair game.. YOU SAID IT YOURSELF..

What people are saying to you is tell the story - don't embellish with "I used to build very fast cars in the States"....... No one cares - all we are interested in is what this forum is about. I too have had my small share of niggles but that is what it is all about. Mike Harding very aptly said the other day in a post "we are not really like this in the person". That is the truth.
Don't take too many of the comments seriously...

As far as racial connotation goes I for one react strongly to that.. enough said on that issue. Lets move on.

I will agree that it is not easy and I also have done the rounds to learn so I and they do understand your plight. As I said - tell the story - ask the questions etc....NO BS...Okay!

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Follow Up By: Exploder - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:59

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:59
Dam straight, I am an Australian I do my upmost to offend all Minority’s Equally LOL.
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 22:20

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 22:20
Ok then Crazy...what it is all about: (well, at first it was just fun)

I speak in code.

It is a warning to newcommers and/or buyers...be carfull ANY WARE in the "industry"....global.

I clame all right to bitch and mone. The "newcommers" can come in alot of forms...want-a-bees, buyers, distrib's, manufactures.

Think about this...(i even joked about this on this site)...An intake manifold, carburated or injected which produces 110 efficency through 800-10,000 RPM range. Imagine if this was available tomorrow...would you buy it? Yep..you would. But it is impossible right? Nope, I produced it...spent four years in the board rooms of Crane, Holley, Edelbrock, Barry Grant, Yattes, Roush Racing, Willson Manifods....It's all ego, no one wants something THEY did not come up with. And so we sit here in the aftermarket blackhole.

THAT is a rant...but not why I started this thread....I was originally having fun, thought ppl would goin in.

Im just some words on a screen...do you belive them...who cares!
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 22:42

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 22:42
Not going to bother anymore......:)))))
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Reply By: arthurking83 - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:14

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:14
I don't mind someone that's striving for his fair share of "free bread"!
It's a basic human requirement, and possibly the basis of the whole history of civilization!!
The onus is on the government to feed it's poulation, and free bread and free water should be enshrined in the constitution, as a basic right to every citizen..... (in their respective country of choice)!!

Now!!!....... "Free beer" what a waste of resources that would be!!
The alcohol is probably best put to use as a form of fuel for our mobility.
The wheat/barley/hops are better off feeding the starving millions the world over.
(to make 'free bread'??)
The water content, which is around 95% (or more) of beer, would be wisely re-distributed to the drought stricken parts of the country.
.......BLAH!
.......BLAH!
....Oh!......and ........BLAH!

etc...etc....

*RANT/RAVE*..........OFF!

;-)

And the Yanks actually DO build the best "off-road/4WD vehicles!!!
I've seen the abilities of some of those Baja trucks, and they seem to indicate that live axles should have been 'put to pasture' with the stone wheel!!

:/
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:29

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 21:29
well....Baja, that is a whole other story ;)
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:06

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:06
Pump it up !!! This thread is killing me :))))))))

Can't help you at all Pneumatic but it's a fun read LOLOL
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 17:07

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 17:07
he's up there with some of the best on this site lol lol
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Reply By: revhead307 - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:10

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:10
I replied to a previous post on 500,000 watt audio systems...one reply was enough..decided not to get dragged further into the world of misinformation.

Ignore pudding boy, its past his bedtime and he gets cranky if u keep him up late.

Rev
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:57

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:57
Gramps.....do you know Prima?
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:00

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:00
I "feel" like I have met you before in a kind of Ellemental way...
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:01

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:01
opps sorry rev hit the wrong follow-up
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:11

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:11
By answering the Prima query I may give the game away. We may very well have met in an Ellemental way ..... I tend to run with the 'twisted' in this world :))))
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:13

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:13
Well thanks Gramps I feel less straight now.

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 16:06

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 16:06
Hahahaha Beatit. It's called being normal. The sane ones are definitely in the minority :))))
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:50

Monday, Feb 27, 2006 at 23:50
Gramps,
Have you been away, and where DID you put the EO sticker?
revhead, as just posted, your name belies your IQ.
Pneumatic,
welcome to L'il Merika. After all , our Boss did claim Depty Sheriff status recently.
Rockcrawler, I prejudged you.By your post, you are both skilled and sincere. May Pneumatic benefit from your local knowledge.
Travel well,
Jeff H.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:08

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:08
"May Pneumatic benefit from your local knowledge."

Are you kidding? Give this guy a week and I'm sure he'll "produce" a 1000hp comp winning rock crawling machine that will cruise noislessly & comfortably from here to melbourne using only 5ltrs of LPG.....with the aircon on!

Avagoodn
Pezza
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:50

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:50
IF YOU GOT THE CASH I GOT THE MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:01

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:01
Jeff H,

Yes and undecided :))))))
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Reply By: OLDMAGPIE - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:44

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:44
so noomatic "where the bloody hell are you? lol
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:52

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:52
a click outside Sydney
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:54

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:54
who knows I may have even been here for more than 40,000 years...
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:56

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:56
I'll open the gate for you
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Follow Up By: OLDMAGPIE - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:59

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 00:59
you really dont get it do you
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:01

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:01
ummm....i think I do

I'll get you a beer to sir...
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:05

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:05
how about a table of 2 overlooking The Rock...
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:06

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:06
Yes massa anything for your Yank dollar........ooppppsss did I say that!
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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:07

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:07
so " how the bloddy hell are YOU?"
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Reply By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:13

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:13
everyone shut the hell up real quick. Im not hear to as this or that about what Rock we come form hear...its all the same...we all gulp the same air...the same water we piss out we drink again.

I did not start this thread war ..BUT I CAN END IT!!!
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:06

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:06
hiya Pneumatic

aside from what this thread was originally about, I saw you owned a 58 Olds, we own several Olds' mainly 20s and 30s though, the Oldsmobile club of Aust are holding their national meet this year in the barossa, not sure if anyone in the club has a 58, but there are some great looking vehicles owned by members..

cheers

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 16:03

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 16:03
>>> I did not start this thread war ..BUT I CAN END IT!!!

Im officaly scared, is anyone else?

School holidays again already is it?
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:25

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:25
Now steady there folks.

Put on the Sherlock Holmes hat and look closely at the spelling !

It seems to be almost the same as another contributor :-))

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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:48

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:48
First up..... I only read some of the above replies..... but I decided to short cut and add my own reply based on my experience.

3 years ago when my SWMBO and I decided to buy a 4WD, I knew NOTHING about them. NOTHING.......Nada, Zip!!!!

I bought magazines, I joined ExplorOz, (and 3 or 4 other forums who shall remain nameless.... I don't use them now) I went to the ARB's and the TJM's and the locals 4WD "Performance" centres and I asked questions..... and I listened carefully to what I was told and went home and weighed it all up. Yep.... sometimes you will come away feeling like you're being taken for a ride, but mostly people will try to help if your attitude is on the level.

Like others have said, try to give the impression you "know-it-all" and if you don't, the guy behind the counter knows straight away. They get this sort of stuff ALL THE TIME!!! And not just from Americans!
;-)

Do your homework....... Every mod on my truck is the result of weeks (months even) of research...... I posted way back in (I think) October here about turbo charging my Nissan....... had it fitted in January, it took me that long to make my mind up on what I wanted... I am now extremely happy with the result.... I have been reading up on suspension for YEARS.... selected my new "kit" last Saturday!
Sam goes for all the other mods on our truck..... lots of homework!

Be humble and you'll get the right advice........ NEARLY always! ;-))

Just my opinion

Cheers

Brian (Gold Coast)

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Follow Up By: Pneumatic - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:19

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:19
man (girl, whatever) i was never going to open this thread again unti a got the email loop for this.LMMFAO

What the hell is a SWMBO ...does your Single Whits Boyfiend have B.O.

holly crap im totally on the floor here!

All you idiots just dont get it.....really....READ MY FIRST POST S-L-O-W-L-Y...it will make sense.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:07

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:07
Pararphrased in a nutshell........

"... I wish I had the time to research more so I didn’t have to “take someone’s word” but rebuild times are huge....", then you've got the time, right??? What is an extra 3-4 weeks on a one year build, if it is going to save you several thousand dollars?

What do I know about what you're going though? I'm getting a few "minor " modifications done to a Kia Sportage (cut/edited from another forum I'm on)

"The list of new parts

Holden (GM Buick) 3.8L V6 (~157 kw/304 Nm = 210 hp/225 lbf.ft)
Recoed/strengthened 4L60E transmission + stage two converter manual shift
Adapter from 4L60E to Tcase
Toyota Tacoma (Hilux) gear drive Tcase with 4.7:1 gears, 2-low "twin stick" mod (not a true twin - no rear disconnect)
Nissan Patrol GQ f&r diffs (about the same size as a Dana 60 - 9.25" R&P, 1.5" 31/33 spline axles, rear locker already in. (same H233 diffs in your large Nissans))
Redesign and construction of front and rear suspension
Simex Extreme Trekker 35x11.5 tyres on 15" rims

Everything else that is needed has been included into the labor charge, things like new suspension, brake lines, power steering box to accommodate the front axle being pushed fwd 3", exhaust, custom length driveshafts, and the like, generally the other bits that you won't know you will need until you are in there. Also includes the auto electricals and any basic panel work needed. Basically drive in-drive out."

I have spent the better part of one year researching sizes, parts compatability, and as many of the big and little details as possible, discussing on several forums the pros/cons of different solutions, educating myself about suspension geometry to a level that I am comfortable with, etc, etc. All in all, a very steep learing curve.

There are a couple of sites available on the net that will be able to help you, but only if YOU are prepared to do the right thing and STFU, listen, and learn. Any attempt at the sort of attitude (RANT) you have displayed here will leave your computer as a pile of smoulering ash on your desk from the flaming you will get. Be warned, they have a "Search" button, and "Bibles" on most models of vehicles, AND EXPECT YOU TO USE THEM FIRST!! There is a heap of tech info available (too much to be answering the same old Q's over and over and over), and intelligent, knowledgable ppl to bounce ideas off.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/index.php

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SWMBO??? have a look at the tab on the bottom of the page (when reading posts) marked "Abbreviations", or Google it (it's common enough on the internet).

In Australia we don't really have the need to give ourselves coronaries at the age of 35............Lose the attitude, lighten up, and slow down. No one will mind.

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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 13:53

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 13:53
Hey GaryInOz,

SWMBO is NOT in the abreviations.

But it should be or she may be anoyed (are you listening David ?)
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 15:01

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 15:01
"... or Google it ..."
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 15:56

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 15:56
>"All you idiots just dont get it.....really...."

Idiots???????

Yep..... you really ARE an American!

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 16:05

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 16:05
YA right there Brian!
... and they cant understand why they are the most hated race on earth ..

Then again it is only a bored schoolkid thats here and been banned quite regularly IMGO.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:41

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:41
Hmmmmm i just thought our old mate jonno was back, but it may have a slightly sa scent about it.....

definetly some grouse wackjob issues put forward.
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:51

Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:51
I think you might be barking up the wrong tree Brad - the syntax is all wrong. I think the 'gentleman' making all the accusations is definitely American.
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Reply By: Member - Allan M (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 19:19

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 19:19
What a cracker of a Thread this is.

It beats Friday Funnies hands down.
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Reply By: Joe King - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:37

Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:37
There is no helping this knob, look at the helpful reply's & yet still slingin' bleep .
needs clubbin' no matter where he's from....
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