Closer of sandy cape at fraser Island

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 18:03
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I have been told that the QLD Courier Mail did a story on the 20th feb of the closure of Sandy Cape on Fraser Island and have it turn into a marine santuary.
Did any one else see this, if so can they post it here as i believe it still has to go to cabinet and we might have a chance to influence the decision if everybody knew about it.
Myself and other are quite cocerned with what this means, closed to fishing, closed to vehiclar access, closed to camping???????
We camp every year at Browns Rock for the tailor season and would be very angry if they did close the top of the Island down as it the only quiet part left.
If anyone knows of more info particulary factual info not just rumors could they please let us know.
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Reply By: scottp - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 18:51

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 18:51
I am aware of the proposed closure of the lower end of the island between 11 mile track and where the barg's operate from inskip pt, due to the severe erosion which has been occuring. The closure will not occur until the inland rd has been upgraded. Haven't heard anything about a marine sanctuary.

Nothing would suprise me.

It seems that the epa do not want us camping on fraser with all of the changes they have made to camping in the island.

There are 40 odd camp sites at dundaburra and only three designated fire pits.

Been chasing tailor up there for 13 years. Its tradition for my father and I. Ithink the bag limits on the tailor was a fantastic idea, but camping isn't camping without a fire to cook on.

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Reply By: Member - greg S (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 19:11

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 19:11
Seems like it's all starting to happen fella's. This is only the beginning, and it's all downhill from here. Kingfisher want the Island for themselves and our Gov't seems to be caving in to their demands. NPWS can't look after the place. People are selling their house over there because they are afraid of what is happening and what is yet to happen. So what's left for us to enjoy, they have shut down the western side of the island, now it's going to be Sandy Cape and the bottom of the island, They're just mustering us into a corner where we can't do a bloody thing.
Well guess what Mr Beattie we of the 4wding world vote too, and we are a much larger group than you might think.

I'm gettin' off my soap box now and my wine is going hot.

greg
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Reply By: Member - greg S (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 19:32

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 19:32
With regards to Fraser Island - I don't want to get into the why's and where fors of how the QPWS are managing (or, more precisely - not managing) the place, but the fact is, they don't appear to have the knowledge, expertise or interest in looking after it should be respected and looked after. Like many, I've been going to the Island since I was 6 - that's 32 years ago. Last trip was Jan 06 - it was a mess!!! Its popularity has made it a must see destination for all and sundry and I believe that the intense exposure it has received world wide brings us to this situation where talks of closure to various sections abound. Management ? We were over there in July 05 - the sign to Platypus Bay was still up then - was still up in Jan 06. The road was closed over 3.5 years ago... Not sure whose responsibility it is to take it down, but for goodness sake - its a couple of bolts to avoid confusion and disappointment to those visiting. I'd like to know how much the govt receives in various fees etc imposed on each visitor each year - I'd also like to know how its spent - the revenue raising doesn't appear to be reflected in the condition of the Island. Lets get back to basics - since QPWS took over its been all down hill from there... I want my children to be able to enjoy the place as I did when I was a kid - have respect for its importance and unique beauty and have access to it when they choose. We need to be looking at an alternative management system for the Island, as all I've seen since QPWS took over is one blunder to the next. They are the reason closures are eminent. Perhaps look at minimising access to 4WD's piled high with 10+ passengers more so - we've seen first hand the desecration that they cause - no regard for the place - attitudes of - yep been there - don't live here - who cares. Could go on for hours but I think you get where I'm coming from -

Mrs Greg S (Vanessa)
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Follow Up By: briggzee (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 17:37

Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 17:37
Mrs Greg S. Just read your post and it raises some questions. We are doing a big trip from W.A. thru Alice and coming out near bundaburg and are trying to decide if Fraser is still worth a visit. We have seen plenty of magnificent pictures and heard many great stories about the place but are concerned about the number of people, state of the island etc,etc. We like quiet camping and hassle free holidays (is there such a thing!). Should we spend our limited time exploring the mainland coast and leave the island to the masses. We live in a coastal town so beaches etc are nice but not essential. Any advice? Thanks in advance.
Craig
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Follow Up By: Member - greg S (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 19:26

Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 19:26
Briggzee,
Fraser is always worth a visit in my books - especially the distance you're traveling... I guess I've just witnessed a lot of changes over the years, but its truly a spectacular place. Obviously school hols are busy, however if you can avoid this time, you'll have more of it to yourself. You'll find the northern section - between Waddy Point and the Cape are less populated, good camping spots on either side of the entry into Ocean Lake - 4WD hire companies generally don't allow their vehicles beyond Champagne Pools as such. Have a look at a map if you have one so ascertain where I mean. There is a couple of 4WD groups who go over voluntarily for a clean up run, so I'm sure you'll find the island in much better condition than at Xmas (obvious busy time). We find leaving from Inskip Point less stress on your gear especially if you have a camper trailer as its all beach travel, however leaving from River Heads across to Urang Creek will allow you to cross thru the island thru the rainforest areas to the eastern side, coming out at Eurong. The tracks at times are very good - depends on when they've been graded. The beaches are amazing - usually a feed of fish can be caught. There's lots to see, so allow yourself min of 5-6 days for a reasonable look round - longer if time allows to really appreciate its beauty. You could do a day trip via Hervey Bay, however these tend to be very rushed and only go to the hotspots in the time they have. My post wasn't to put people off - it's just me having a whinge on the changes that have taken place - more to the detriment of the island than anything. Articles on further closures seem an extreme but 'easy' solution to combat the lack of management that's going on over there. There's so much to see over there it seems a damn shame to wrap it up in cotton wool and preserve it for no one to enjoy. There has to be a happy medium found. Anyway - if you want more info we'll post what we can on here... Enjoy your trip...

Mrs Greg S.
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Follow Up By: briggzee (WA) - Friday, Mar 03, 2006 at 13:24

Friday, Mar 03, 2006 at 13:24
Mrs Greg S, Thanks for your reply. It looks as though the on again, off again Fraser trip is back on. Much appreciated.
Craig
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Reply By: datto311 - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 20:21

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 20:21
Yes I saw the article. We rang the EPA and what it is all about is the marine park, that is, the "wet bits" as she said, and does not refer to any more closures on the island, Go and have a look at the EPA website

However I agree with the sentiments of everybody else. They don't want us to go when the government gets I think it is $7 per per person in every one of those tour buses you see terrorising the island.

Those of us who have been going there for more than 20 years really are disappointed with what is happening. I don't like forestry on the island per se but at least when they were there they were looking after their part of the island

Noel
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Reply By: age - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 22:52

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2006 at 22:52
Look out for new "Wild Rivers" legislation declared over the island

Read here - http://www.nrm.qld.gov.au/wildrivers/index.html

Will have far reaching ramifications and has effectively tied all future development up on the island
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