Attaching Downpipe to roof racks (tent poles)
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 13:07
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Hi
Have put my tent poles into some downpipe and screwed on the lids.
Now to put them on the roof racks.
Am after cheap secure suggestions. I thought about screwing them on with their clamps but thought that might bugger the integrity of my not so expensive roof racks, btu maybe not.
Thought maybe i can just tie them down with a good motorcycle tie down strap. But i guess this ain't a long term solution along corrugated roads.
Thanks in anticipation of your replies.
porl
Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 14:23
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 14:23
"200mm plumbers pipe"
Mate! that is 8in in diameter.
How many and what sort of poles are you looking to store.??????????????????(must be big suckers)(and lots of them)
The 'usual' size (admittedly not the only size) is 100mm ie 4inches, which can be secured/fixed on by a 6inch radiator hose type clamp.
Where would you buy such and animal - easy, in the plumbing section of Bunnings or a plumbing store.
PS
For the member above who described 'continuos metal strip with holes' - these days it is known as 'hoop iron'.
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Follow Up By: porl - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 14:26
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 14:26
Yeah i know it is huge but i figured better bigger than fraction too small. I have tossed in poles for a big tarp for beach camping. Doesn't take up all the room but a fair bit.
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Follow Up By: Laura B - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 14:33
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 14:33
it is big..we got it too but everything fits...if we got the small one all of the poles for the tarp wouldnt have fitted either....when nathan brought it out to me at the
shop i nearly bleep myself cos it was so big...but any smaller and it wouldnt have worked...
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Reply By: BorisK - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 15:19
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 15:19
Hi any 4wd store should have the brackets for the 100 mm pipes. I got
mine at tjm for $28 a pair. Two bolts hold each bracket to the rack. I would also like to share with you in case you are not aware of it that overloading your tube with poles is dangerous. Being a plasterer I carry external angles and straightedges (yes some of us do use them) in the tubes. When I had to stop in a hurry the externals broke through the end cap and flew javelin like across the
intersection and just missed some school kids waiting to cross. Now I make sure the tube is a maximum 10mm longer than the externals and straightedges inside it so if I stop in a hurry they dont build up enough energy/speed in the tube to break through the end. I also stick with tubes no bigger than 150mm so as not to overload them.
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Follow Up By: porl - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 15:24
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 15:24
OK BorisK, very good points. I imagine a big drop or a big bump could
well build up the same pressure as a sudden stop. Will take that issue into account. Not much of a system if i get to a site without the poles in a tube, let alone having impaled people on the way.
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 15:49
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 15:49
Some good points made already. For a while I carried my tent poles in 2 x 100mm sewer pipes. The pipes were just the right length to avoid the 'javelin effect'. I reckon 2@100 is better than 1@200, but that is just an opinion. Point load, strength required for barackets, wind resistance etc.
To make your own brackets. Use U bolts that fit tight around the roof racks. Get some 2mm steel or aluminium to make a cap across the top of the U bolt, obviously 2 holes for the bolt ends to go through. Or buy U bolts with the cap supplied.
Use hoop iron or 2mm aluminium strapping for the brackets. Bend around the pipe and slip each end under the cap for the U bolt. The bracket is now wedged between the roof rack bar and the U bolt cap. Follow.
For extra strength, bend the bracket back over the U bolt cap and pop rivet it back on itself.
This is a variation on how I made
mine (which suit the sports bar style bars).
I've since changed and have built a narrow section into the side of one of my rear roller drawers to take my poles. Surprising how little space a dozen poles takes when packed right. But I have a dual cab ute, so had the length to do it.
I still carry two pipes on the roof racks. One is for fishing rods, the other is for a
home made roll out awning.
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Reply By: S&N - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 19:09
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 19:09
just a small point, DONT listen to any crap about using tape or any ting of that strength. if you need to drill through your $100 racks, then drill. if you need to bolt them as
well, then do it!!!!!
imagine the look on your face, the feeling in your gut, and the ache in your soul, when you get up each morning, look in the mirror and think to yourself......"If i had secured it properly, or got the proper racks, maby it wouldnt have become a missile and killed that man/woman/child". do yourself and everyone else on the road a favor, and do it right the first time.
P.S. if you use the BIGGER IS BETTER method of chooseing pipe, remember.....the more space inside the pipe, the more likely you are to put just that "little bit" more inside, which will mean on heavy brakeing/accident you will need stronger brackets.
if its a cost problem, christ......give me a bell, im a plumber, and i will GIVE you some 100mm pipe, for the piece of mind that the car behind me/my wife/my loved ones & friends, doesnt have a potential missile on top!!!!!
sorry to grouch everyone!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 20:43
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 20:43
I am building a new house, please put me down for about 300m of 100mm pipe.
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Follow Up By: porl - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 22:08
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2006 at 22:08
hey S&N if you're a plumber then this stuff is your trade so i'll take your advice and keep the 200ml for
home storage of stuff and go pick up some 100ml, 2 if i need it.
porl
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