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Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 13:57
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I am interested in purchasing a hand winch for my recovery kit. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced winch rated for large 4wd.
Its to go in my Troopie and will be mainly used for rescuing Patrols and Landrovers etc.

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Reply By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 17:11

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 17:11
I am interested in purchasing a hand winch for my recovery kit. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced winch rated for large 4wd.

Check tradingpost for a Turfor..


Its to go in my Troopie and will be mainly used for rescuing Patrols ...
Keep dreaming.....
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Reply By: Ray - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 17:13

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 17:13
I'm interested in this one too, anyone got any answers.
I think Truckster should be able to give us a comprehensive reply on winches.
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Reply By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 18:31

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 18:31
Yea no problems Ray... or Ozi.

There are a few out there, TJM, Black Rat etc...

But the Black Rat ones are not recommended by 2 clubs im in as there have been a few times they have failed at times causing problems...

I have a T-516 Turfor, which to me, is the one most I 4wd with and they are happy with it.

There are 3 different models in the Turfor brand.
T508 800kg Normal capacity which comes in at 6.6 kg
T516 (I have) 1600kg which comes in at 13.5 kg
T532 3200kg which comes in at 24 kg

The T508 uses 8.3mm diameter wire rope, with a breaking strain of 4800kg with a 5:1 safety factor
the T516 uses 11.5 witha BS of 9600 with a 5:1 S.F
and the T532 uses 16.3mm with a BS of 19200.


508 retails for around $595
516 for $695
532 $ 899(depending who you call)

Advantages of a TIRFOR
works in any position horizontal, vertical or angled
unlimited length of wire rope
increase the nominal capacity with multiple sheave blocks
high mechanical advantage
both ranges will operate in the most difficult conditions

Black Rat Tirfor Winches
Available in 800kg or 1600kg capacity
Priced at AUD$325.00 & AUD$445.00 (corresponding to capacity above)

I dont go into details as I wouldnt use one or recommend it.


4wd systems have their own branded one, but I wouldnt use anythign of theirs, as Ive never got a straight answer out of them on anything Ive called about.

Lifting Capacity 1.6tn
Hauling Capacity 2.5tn
Operating Effort (at rated load) 42kg
Handle length 1120mm
Rope length 20M
Rope diameter 11mm
Overall size 545 x 97 x 260


TJM has the Tuff Pull Hand Winch.
I dont mind TJM stuff. Would go with it, but I dont have any info on them.,




Anything else you would like to know????
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Follow Up By: Member - Moggs - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 18:41

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 18:41
Hey Truckster - what about the Big Haul. I had the pleasant experience of buying one and left the store with cash in the wallet (doesn't happen often). I've used it - no problems - the only drawback is that the wire rope will not fit other winches and vice-versa.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 18:43

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 18:43
Theres dozens of them out there, Home brands, etc.....

Im happy with the Turfor, which can be had CHEAP from trading post wiht all the goodies regularly!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 21:06

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 21:06
Moggs...


Do fill in the blanks, why didnt you buy it or did you take it back ??

Just interested to hear other stories about failures etc....
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Follow Up By: Member - Moggs - Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 00:47

Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 00:47
Truckster, I bought it - left with cash in the wallet as it was alot cheaper than I thought it would be - about $400 all up. I was expecting all of the winches to be of coparable cost. This is about the only time I haven't regretted at some stage buying a 'cheaper' product for the 4wd
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Follow Up By: Member - Moggs - Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 00:51

Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 00:51
.... and just for interests sake, it's probably safe to say this now that Ozi has spat it and left ... 4wd monthly rated the Big Haul No.1 in a hand winch test last year...don't know if this means anything though.
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Follow Up By: Tod - Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:48

Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:48
No I think that about covers it...........did you get all that Ray?
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Reply By: Mick - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:38

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:38
noknok I think Tirfor is the way to go - I think it's too important an item to risk cheaper brands - you'll find people who've had problems with various others but not with Tirfor. Go for the 516 - Cruisers and Patrols are well within its capacity ... but of course you won't need it on a Cruiser!!
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Follow Up By: Mick - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:40

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:40
Oops!! Just noticed it was for Patrols and Landrovers ..... Don't get a winch!! Just snatch them out with your troopie!! $50 will get you a good strap!
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Reply By: dougie - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 21:27

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 21:27
Dont buy the cheaper ones go the turfer,You wish you had paid a little more when th sucker starts groaning and slipping.Same with a wallaby high lift.
Go for quality in recovery gear, as it is not always fun getting out of difficult situations with the ball and chain in your ear ( 'saying"i NEW WE COULD NOT GO DOWN THERE)
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Reply By: voxson - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 22:58

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 22:58
truckster...
i use a come-along hand winch which is rated at 3000kgs.
it is a glorified chain block with a holding brake and a rotating handle which i find easy to use except for the fact that i am limited to how far i can winch for because of the length of chain in use....

have you had much to do with these?
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Reply By: brian - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 23:24

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 23:24
HI voxton in answer OOOOOH SHIIIIIET bury this bastard before it buryies YOU it is unsafe piddle it off now before somene is hurt,just my thoughts
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Follow Up By: Kev. - Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 15:31

Thursday, Jan 30, 2003 at 15:31
Yep, the only thing i would use one of those is for lifting an engine out or something similar. A good turfer is hard enough work on a hot day.

Kev.
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Reply By: voxson - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 07:49

Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 07:49
what probs had you seen>?
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Feb 03, 2003 at 14:49

Monday, Feb 03, 2003 at 14:49
Hi Noknok,

We have the Tuff Pull from TJM. Excellent winch, no problems recommending it.

:o) Melissa
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