Camper Trailers on the Canning
Submitted: Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 15:01
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Member - Richard
This winter we’re doing a 3-month round trip from
Sydney through the
Flinders Ranges, across the Anne Beadell Hwy, north up the CSR and then a month or so on the WA coast, and we’re taking off-road camper trailers.
Various people have advised against taking camper-trailers on the Canning but, equally, we’ve spoken to people who say that if we’re sensible we should have little trouble. Our ‘Cruisers are all
well prepared and can carry adequate fuel. We’re not in a hurry.
I gather that the when dunes in the CSR have to be crossed the track invariably has been running parallel to the dunes and not at right angles as, say, in the Simpson. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Also, I’m told that the dunes are easier to climb when heading north and harder when travelling south. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Richard
Reply By: Member - Alan - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 15:36
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 15:36
Seem to remember something in the A4WDRN Network News months ago about trailers not welcome on the Canning by the Station owners, too much wear and tear? Worth following up before you head off and, if you are not already an
HF radio user I STRONGLY recommend you not only get one, (or have one in your party), but also be a member of this great network. You won`t regret it!
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Follow Up By: Member - Richard - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 15:51
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 15:51
Thanks Alan,
Where do I go to access A4WDRN and read up on this issue? If it's part of ExplorOz I can't readily locate it.
Richard
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Reply By: Member - Alan - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 16:01
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 16:01
Since found the reference was Sept 2000 so obviously dated. Then access through Cunyu Station was strictly no traier or wide track vehicles. No Okas, Akas or anything bigger than Landcruiser. The Station recommended ringing
Wiluna Police Station for the latest data on o8-9981-2934. The web site suggested then was
http://4wdclubs.sofocom.com/au/an4wdrn/canning.htm
The Australian National 4WD Radio Network has an email address of vks737@camtech.net.au and phone 08-8287-6222
Hope this is of some help
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Willem- Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 20:44
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 20:44
We have just had a discussion about taking trailers on the Canning. Please
check mail of 17th January posted by Trixie on Canning and Gunbarrel. Use the 'Search' function. There are those for and those against taking trailers on the Canning. Myself and others are against it as vehicles towing trailers stuff up the dunes. No matter how
well prepared you are, how
well prepared you vehicle is or how sturdy your trailer is YOU WILL DO DAMAGE to the dunes and you will then make it difficult for those who come after you. The Canning isn't a picnic. There are about 950 dunes to cross. Yes the track runs parallel to the dunes but there is normally a straight run up. That is if you are going south to north. Travelling north to south is far more diffcult as there is no run up to the dunes and every crossing has to be done on a left hand turn and a rush over the dune. Please consider leaving your trailers behind. Cheers, W
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Reply By: Tim Nivo - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 21:25
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 21:25
Richard. Having travelled the csr solo in sept/oct 2002, I have some opinions. We have to be carefull when talking of towing camper trailers as sometimes apples aren't compared with apples. I was in a relatively lightly loaded nissan ute 4.2 turbo with intercooler and ran tire pressures at 20-22psi. I was not towing a trailer. Despite this I still had to 2nd go about 5 dunes. Some of these were driver error(daydreaming)! Most people would say this is quite a compelling argument to leave your trailer behind, and to a point I agree. If however I had a vehicle with plenty of grunt (perhaps a toyota 4.2 td, I,m not ashamed to admit they have more grunt then my nissan!), had plenty of traction(i.e. double cross-axle diff locks, and prepared to run really low tire pressures of 16/18 psi) and were towing very light trailers(600-700kg max) I think that it could be a relatively easy trip.With this sort of setup you may be able to idle over dunes without doing any damage to track or vehicles. A nightmare scenario to me would be a naturally aspirated, heavily loaded vehicle with no traction aids,high tire pressures and towing a one tonne plus trailer.
Another factor not mentioned in previous posts, is the condition of the csr north of
well 33 in those areas that have been flooded. The detour tracks that have been put around the wet areas run along the top of the dunes. They are incredibly rough and soft.
To sum up, if you're
well set up and prepared to take your time, it is possible. My personal recommendation is still try and leave trailers behind. Hope this helps a bit. Tim.
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Reply By: desert - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 21:34
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 21:34
Afraid I agree with Willem. Some of the dunes have little or no chance of a run up to get some momentum up on the soft climbs. Last year, I noticed that the dunes were much rougher than my previous visit in '98. This is due entirely to people NOT
airing down their tyres and churning holes and steps into the dunes. Some of the driving was now unpleasant due to the amount of traffic. Generally it is accepted that north to south is more difficult due to the steeper southern side. Around the area of
Well 18 to 22 some of the dunes are very soft double headers that also have blind turns that will rob your momentum in the short valley, and regaining that speed, with a trailer in tow is very, very difficult and a bogged down vehicle WITH TRAILER, will cause huge holes and chop up an already deteriorating track. Leave the trailers
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 23:02
Friday, Jan 31, 2003 at 23:02
Richard,
I'm confused as to why you asked this qn and even made reference to not finding it answered on this site. You obviously haven't read the
Canning Stock Route trek note on this site. It is very clearly answered there for you... here is an excerpt
"From Wells 3 to 5 follow the
sign- posted route from
Well 3a to
Well 4a which is almost a permanent dry weather access track. Please stay on the track and do not deviate onto station tracks. *NOTE - this section of track passes through private pastoral lease on Cunyu Station and trailers are NOT allowed, nor are vehicles larger than a Landcruisers (ie. NO OKAS). These vehicles can access the CSR via
Granite Peak or Glenyle (Wells 5 & 9)."
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Follow Up By: Member - Richard - Saturday, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:21
Saturday, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:21
Michelle,
Ouch. In fact I had looked in the Archives, but missed the apparent references to (a) the track paralleling the dunes and (b) comparasions of Nth>Sth versus Sth>Nth. FYI we are 1x #100 4.2 td with diff locks front & rear, 1x #80 4.5p with rear diff lock, and another#80p with no diff locks. Trailers are 1x KKamper and 2x lighter. We are
WELL aware of the need to drop tyre pressures, and crossed parts of the Simpson as low as 14psi (overkill). Also aware of the diversions via
Granite Peak etc. Incidentally my reference to "not readily finding" was to A4WDRN.
Nevertheless I'm suitably chastened by the various replies and got the message.
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Follow Up By: Exploroz Team - Michelle - Saturday, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:27
Saturday, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:27
Richard,
I didn't mean for my reply to be quite so harsh and I apologise for my bluntness. It just that the core content on ExplorOz is the Trek Notes (where your answer to trailers on the CSR is answered) plus the Preparation Topics, where detailed information about the AN4WDRN (including a link) can be found.
I just get disappointed when site users repeatedly that ask qns in the
forum when the answer is in fact on the site, directly under menu navigation.
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