Are they having a loan of me??
Submitted: Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 07:07
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Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast]
Hi all, put the truck[gq] up on the hoist yesterday for a
check ever, b4 the trip, the guy ses I need the swivel hubs done & 4 new shocks [koni] . The shocks were not covered in oil & dirt like u would expect, if they were leaking just 'normal 'dirty , the hubs DID have a bit of dirt caked around them , but did'nt 'appear' to be fresh or untoward?? but I'm no mechanic,I mean , thats why I took it there , right? so maybe I should just have the work done [$ 1400] , EXCEPT , 3 yrs. ago I took my 60series to them, & they ' found ' the exact same work needed to be done.?
So I guess I need a second opinion, the veh. has done k200,000 , I bought it 6mths. ago [wa] from the trader section here, it was
WELL maintained & the shocks have done about 40,000,. I hit everything with degreaser, & pressure hose so it's all shight & briney , & I figure by the time I get to
Perth[Birdsville/ Alice/Central rd./
Perth. I will get them checked again at the same place that serviced the veh. for the last 10 yrs. & go on there recommendation.[ I will be keeping a CLOSE eye on things on the way]. Am I been a idiot, & a tightass!!?? wotcha reckon?
Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 07:19
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 07:19
Gee Phil , I think I would get a second opinion before you leave .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:05
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:05
will most prob. do that ,the only trouble is they are all nice and clean now ? no tell tale signs.. Phil
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:31
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:31
interesting that he is quoting you on the top of the range shocks....I would go somewhere else
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:07
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:07
Troll, they are the shocks already on there. They have,nt done that much work though.....
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Reply By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:31
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:31
I'd ask him "why" the swivel hubs need to be done and seriously how he came to that conclusion. Do the shocks still dampen the
suspension within limits and aren't the Koni's re-buildable anyway?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 13:25
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 13:25
Konis are rebuildable.
sounds like this dude is being taken for a ride.
quite i had for Swivel hub from 4
places was $550+ parts was cheapest!
$165 for kit off ebay and few hours at
home!
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Follow Up By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 14:29
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 14:29
Precisely!
The bloke's a dick.... look elsewhere!
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 21:28
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 21:28
Cost me $300 to rebuild 4 konis.(
well i didn't do it they did)
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Follow Up By: ACDC - Saturday, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:35
Saturday, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:35
Hey truckster if you can do swivel hubs in a couple of hours i 'ii give you a job!..^_^..
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Reply By: Footloose - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:34
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:34
If the hubs are worn, your steering may be "off" (assuming that they aren't bad enough for the wheels to fall off :). If the shocks are crook, steering, braking and ride quality can be affected. These things may not easily recognizeable at the moment but its a LONG way and a lot of driving to
Perth.
Get a second opinion, and from experience it's better to spend BEFORE the trip, rather than during it.
PS Every time I've been to a certain national
suspension chain , my entire
suspension needs replacing....funny that.
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Reply By: dinodog- Central Coast NSW - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 09:04
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 09:04
phil, I think he is having a go. How in heavens name can he make the asumption that ALL your shockies need replacing, has he done a dynamic
test on them all? How can he do this with the vehicle sitting on a hoist, he can't. As for the swivel hubs what needs attention, wipers/seals, bearings, cvs? he can't say so for sure unless he strips them down. The only thing he can see are the wipers for leaks and that would have to be very obvious or some extreme scoring to the swivel itself. Take your vehicle to a specialised 4x4
suspension business and get second opinion and even if you don't know what is going on be there when they
test things and ask questions that way you put them on
the spot and you learn whats going on.
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Follow Up By: dinodog- Central Coast NSW - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 09:08
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 09:08
just another thought, when I buy a vehicle I always source a repair manual for it. even if you are not mechanically minded at least you have a reference point as to what is involved in certain repairs and most also give some indication of how to detect faults and how to
test certain parts and systems. cheap insurance.
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 09:55
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 09:55
Hi Phil,
A second opinioin might be worth a shot I think.
Hope it gets sorted for you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:10
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 12:10
Thanks all for your advise, i,m off now to get a second opinion!! cya,
Phil
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 17:02
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 17:02
Hes gonna burn ya mate, Shocks can be tested easily and hubs..well in my espierence with GQ's 200,00 isnt the norm for front end repairs on a GQ..even under harsh driving conditions. Unless of course river crossings have been the norm for previous owner and never changed the diff oil.
Ange.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 20:38
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 20:38
I've had them ($14 test at nobull place) say they couldn't test shockers because of the weight of my rig ...
where they bull sh1tting?
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 21:07
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 21:07
All shocks can be tested. Rig weight has nothing to do with it. They may have meant that the equipment they used to test "on car" shocks was not capable of handling the weight of your rig.
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 20:02
Friday, Mar 17, 2006 at 20:02
Hi Phil - check your manual, but I think Nissan recommend the front hubs be repacked every 40,000 k. If so, then they are due at the 200K service.
He may just be following the book on that one.
As to shockies, an indication of wear is simple - do they stabilise quickly after a bump, or is there some ossilation. With only 40K on the shocks, it is hard to believe they need anything......Keith
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