Engel Fridge again

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 11:59
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They don't make fridges to last any more.

The 40lt Engel that i got 20 years ago has finally gone to the big ice maker in the sky.

The search now begins for a replacement.

Wayne
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Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:04

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:04
'They don't make fridges to last any more.

The 40lt Engel that i got 20 years ago has finally gone to the big ice maker in the sky. '

I think 20 years is fair innings.....you got to be happy with that.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony G (ACT) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:13

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:13
So myold 30yo Engle that my son now has is ok for a few more years yet?

Or should should I stick with the 15yo one that sits in the back of the Patrol, for when I go on the next big trip.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:12

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:12
Hmmm, short life for an Engel, are you sure it's not playing possum.
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Reply By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:15

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:15
Sounds like you weren't treating it right...
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Reply By: Member - Nutter (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:16

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:16
Wayne, I think you are right, my 1st Engel (60lt) lasted 27 years,only got turned off once for about 12 months, now their down to 20 years. LOL. I wonder how much ice you would have paid for over that time .... interesting.

Nutter
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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:19

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:19
Sorry to hear that Wayne,

I was only on the phone to Engel this morning to find out how much to upgrade the guts of mine if it failed. Was in excess of $500. She's about 30 yrs old and stays on 24/7.
Still, makes you wonder how long the upgrade would last for. I should find out if there is any introduced pc boards/electronics with the upgrade, that would surely affect its expected life I would think.

Jeremy.
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:14

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:14
Jeremy,

I was told that $500 dollars would have it up and running again, but it was starting to draw a few too many amps.

As much as i hated to part with it, it had to go. The problem now is will the new fridge fit in the same place as the old one did in the storage area.

I might have to build a new storage system to fit the fridge.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:38

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:38
? did Engel advise you that the upgrade would have no effect on the current draw? I would have thought you would start saving amps.

Keen to hear what you decide on.
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Reply By: OLDMAGPIE - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:03

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:03
and for the price you pay you'd expect better than that! cheers
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Reply By: Mal P - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:56

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 13:56
The Engel we bought in 79 also started to play up recently. Would operate OK on 12VDC but only for a short time on 240V. Plug it back into 12V again for a while and then back to 240, once again would only run for a short time.

Have just received a replacement transformer and oscilator from Engeland in WA that I will rewire into the old fridge this weekend. Cost $108 (that included postage to Vic). Second hand units but worth a try.

Contact Henry at Engleworld. 08 9240 1003
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 17:07

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 17:07
I would say it was abuse by the user.. they wont honor warranty... :P
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 17:11

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 17:11
A formal letter of complaint and a call to Consumer Affairs is in order.

Only 20 years, that's a disgrace :))) Must have been one of those made in China jobbies.
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 17:48

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 17:48
The fridge has out lasted 3 vehicles.

It has travelled over 760,000km.

Engel should be giving me a new one. I wish.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: hz75 - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 19:49

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 19:49
just a thought?
how many batteries have you gone through running that Engel over the years?
cheers
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 20:05

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 20:05
hz75,

If I get 2yrs out of a battery I am doing well. So as a rough guess 9 batteries.

It is not only the fridge that _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx a lot out of the batteries. Running the UHF radios GPS, Phone, 240v Inverter, HF radio, and a few other things all take there toll. I also run, as a second battery, a heavy duty cranking battery. I don't use deep cycle.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: hz75 - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 20:21

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 20:21
Is the reason you dont use deep cycle batteris because of charge time?
All info i have recieved out of townsville from ARB TJM concerning second battery is to USE deep cycle batteries for fridge ( that i havent got yet ) also i was told by ARB to run winch off main battery (crank) i was told by TJM to run off aux.. Does this make a difference ?
Any information would be appreciated .. Dual battery in my troopy at the moment (winch runs off main ) nothing running off aux at the moment.
Recentley bought digital volt read out for both batteries from Jcar.. both are fully charged, crank battery is brand new , second battery ( which came with the vehicle ) is NOT a deep cycle , THIS BATTERY IS TEN YEARS OLD! validated by exide two weeks ago
I like your rig i have the same
Darrell
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 21:21

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 21:21
Darrell,

This is getting a bit off topic but because I started the thread I will answer your questions.

I don't use a deep cycle because I need two heavy duty batteries if I have to weld in the bush. I can also swap the batteries from main to aux.
The winch should be hooked up to the main battery. The deep cycle does not like a big draw on it when winching.
10 years, that is very good. I wish I got that much out of a battery.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Peter A (VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 19:49

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 19:49
20 years out of the engel, then your search for a replacement shouldn't be hard one........just get another engel.

Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 21:02

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 21:02
Hi Wayne

The MT45F-S is $1199.00 retail, divide by 20 years = $59.95 / year or Five Bucks a month. I rekon its $5 well spent for the great cold beer and steaks you will get out of it.

Spoil yourself and get a new one.

Regards Derek.
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 21:38

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 21:38
Derek,

I have already got a price of $1000 for the 45F-S. I will try and apply a bit of pressure on Engel and see if I can do a better deal.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:58

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:58
I don't think you will get much better, that's a great price! Try and see if they can throw something in might be your best bet. Transit cover, divider, baskets etc but then you prob have all that from your old fridge.

Leroy
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