"Breaker"

Submitted: Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 20:50
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You hear another convey on the UHF.
You want or need to talk to them.
How do you do that?

I say, when there is a break in the conversation, "Breaker Come Back".

I some times get a response, sometimes I will have to say it a couple of times.

Is this well known procedure, or is there a better way?

Wayne
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 20:58

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 20:58
You are much better off, to cup your hand over the mike, and have the fan on high in the cabin, to simulate wind rushing through a broken cockpit windscreen, then say..."Mayday...Mayday.... this is...." then go all quiet.

You won't believe the silence that his will cause, the silence, before the storm..."This is VBF 678, would the Mayday please repeat?"

Then all and sundry will join in, and try to work out, over what range, who got the signal the strongest, and then head over to the crash zone.

This is one of the lesser known procedures, but it is used to clear the campsites ahead, because everyone else is looking for the plane, and are too busy to worry about getting the best spots.

On the other hand, you could, maybe, do the Kris Kristofferson thing, and do the breaker thing.....
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:06

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:06
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:15

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:15
Ian ,

I think that it is time that you got out again.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:20

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:20
"I think that it is time that you got out again. "

I agree!

... I'll leave the radio at home....

Sorry...

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - Ozdyssey (QLD) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:57

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:57
LMAO
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:17

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:17
Oh how irresponsible!!!!!!
I like it!
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Mar 26, 2006 at 19:25

Sunday, Mar 26, 2006 at 19:25
Sending out malicious Mayday calls is very illegal. The fake Mayday call could be overheard by many resulting in Emergency services being sent out to look for the reason for the call - and if a real emergency happens, the delay in getting them to the real emergency could cost a life.

Mike
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 11:47

Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 11:47
Aha - The big Wolf who cried "Boy".
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:00

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:00
goodday wayne
sounds about what i call
normally call breaker breaker and wait for a call back if no reply within a few minutes call again if its important like waiting because you think other trucks could be coming over a hill or dune then either break in or tell them its urgent

steve
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Reply By: Joe King - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:04

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:04
wayne,
to be honest, I have only heard that on the movie "Convoy".
I listen for a name or call name & say..
"Copy (The name youhear) on channel (Whatever channel you are listening on)"
eg. "Copy Wayne on channel 40"..
works for me...
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:17

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:17
I only talk to truckies from time to time...like

"Hey Big Mac...If ya get off me ass I will let you pass"

And they would respond....

"X%$@*&^%$#@ !!!' Thanks Mate"

Or "Hey you with in the green Tojo......how come you only have one back wheel?"

Travellers in the Simspon get real irate when you run a different channel to 10. Trouble is when it gets busy their is a lt of crap talk on and other users don't relise that everyone else can hear what they are saying
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:38

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:38
Willem,

I never have the UHF on ch 10 when in the Simpson Desert.
I use channel 16 when I have the convey out.

I will always have a second UHF on scan so that i can pick up any one else in range. There is some garbage on the airways sometimes.

Wayne.
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 23:19

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 23:19
I have one radio tuned to Channel 10 and another scanning. The one on 10 is just a handheld but it works fine for the purpose of avoiding head on collisions.
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Follow Up By: hl - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:08

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:08
Another excellent use of channel 40 is to tell the trucky that is about to overtake you while you're sitting on 110 with your cruise control on, there is a radar trap ahead.
Works for me, your milage may vary.

Cheers
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Reply By: Marc - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:34

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:34
rather than just "breaker" add your location or as a earlier reply add their name or vechecle type if known.
We also pay atention to numbers on vehicles travelling pass or around us so we also know the channel they sit on
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:46

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:46
Marc,

I have a second UHF on scan. I can usually get another convey well before I come across them on the track.
A single vehicle is hard to pick up because they don't use the radio, and for that reason they can be a problem. Even if they are by them selfs they should have the UHF on scan so they can pick up another convey.

I will try and use the other person's name if it is used and try and find out there location and direction.
It is surprising how many people don't know in what direction they are travelling.

Wayne
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Reply By: warthog - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:36

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:36
When there is a break I just say excuse me and ask my question, and then say thank you when they answer it.
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 00:02

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 00:02
Hi Wayne,

We usually do the breaker breaker routine and if it is urgent then we physically say the word urgent to try and get some airtime. Usually works.
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Reply By: Member JD- Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 00:13

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 00:13
Hi Wayne,
Ahh..radio etiquite..listen to the convo when theres a gap in there covo just say "breaker standing by"..and if that does'nt work..just repeat break..break..this is a lot ruder but sometimes you have to be more acertive..if its an emergency..all station stand by this is an emergency..this is an emergency..over...I would only ever use mayday..mayday if you are in grave imediate danger,as you could end up in the pokie if you mobilise the troops for nothing.Hope this Helps.
JD
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:03

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:03
That's why it's it's good radio procedure to avoid pressing the Transmit button as soon as the other person has stopped.

WAIT 2 SECONDS, then transmit.

It might just mean you receive an important transmission -
- "there's tree acroos the road in front of you"
- "there's a very wide vehicle heading towards you etc"

Mike
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Reply By: Atropos - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:07

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:07
Pan, pan pan is the urgency signal.....

Never use Mayday unless your are in real Stukk.....

In the old days when you had to have licences for CBs the way that you broke into a conversation was to use your callsign (instead of using Breaker) you just popped up with your callsign,, however now that CB is regulated or rather not regulated and subject to a class licence all hope of civility of operation seems to have flown out othe the window.

Its time for a code of conduct to be enforced and mandatoy callsigns to be issued and perhaps licencing to be re introduced

john
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Follow Up By: old mate - Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 07:06

Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 07:06
There is no difference now to when we had mandatory licences and call signs. All that achieved was the government taking money from us every year. If they brought back licencing and fees, a lot of people wouldn't register anyway. Buggered if I'm paying a fee for the few occassions a year my radio is fitted. Licencing wouldn't stop the idiots and language, didn't years ago and wouldn't do today.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:44

Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:44
Pan pan is still a fairly urgent call, to be used if your vessel/vehicle health or wellbeing may be in danger. The less urgent call is "Securite securite" (pronounced 'securitay')
Mayday should only be used when life at risk & may be lost.

With what I have just read here, the sooner licences are reinstated, the better!
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Reply By: Member - Pud & Barb R (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 26, 2006 at 19:20

Sunday, Mar 26, 2006 at 19:20
Hi Wayne,
my hubby is a truckie and I also have a UHF in my vehicle. Breaker breaker is old. The terminology these days is, "do you copy north/south/east/west bound"
if you don't get an answer repeat again. This usually works.
Barb
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 26, 2006 at 19:27

Sunday, Mar 26, 2006 at 19:27
Barb.

That is alright if you are on a main road and you can see the other vehicle.

I am trying to get in touch with another convey that I have not seen but have heard on the UHF.

I will give it ago next time I need to get in touch with another convey on the track.

Wayne
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Reply By: BigPop - Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 06:32

Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 06:32
You could always try :-

"Breaker 19 this here's the Duck"
"You gotta copy on me PigPen C'Mon"

Worked in the song/movie Convoy :):):):)
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 06:55

Monday, Mar 27, 2006 at 06:55
Wayne I normally just say "Last caller on channel ????? can you advise what track your on or your location" and then when they respond ask the other relevant questions.

This is a pretty typical request on VHF in and around the Port areas and comes across quite well.

Breaker Breaker sound like Yank crap these days.
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