Turbo Diesel 100series "Low Torque"
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 05, 2006 at 22:09
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Wild Man From Borneo
Hi all,
Firstly I would like to introduce myself. My name is Geoff, I own a 05 TD "manual" 100series fitted out mainly with ARB extra's. I've just moved back from Borneo Indonesia after working over there for the past 6 years (hense the user name). Currently planning for a trip to the cape in May.
Now to my question, I purchased a TD 100 series mid last year & have only managed to get 8000k's on the clock until now, the cruiser has been great, but I have only recently noticed that the vehicle has a severe lack of torque. On a steep
hill (car empty except driver) I find the only way to get going is to rev the engine up to around 2000rpm & ride the clutch until I have enough momentum to enable the engine to pull away with 2000+ rpm. I have to ride the clutch that much that you can smell the burning clutch material everytime I get stuck on the hills. If I try to let the clutch out any sooner or with the engine down around the 1000rpm the engine looses revs & dies. I have found the only way to get up the steep incline going to my childrens school is to put the car in low range, which I found outrageous. Can anyone else out there with a TD manual 100series give me some light on this issue. Is this a product problem or have I purchased a lemon?
Cheers,
Geoff.
Reply By: Bilbo - Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 00:26
Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 00:26
Wild Man,
The symptoms you describe are outrageous for a 100 series turbo diesel Cruiser. I've just had one stolen but when I WAS driving it, that truck was a veritable thorougbred racehorse. It was a Ferrari of a 4WD. Up to about 1800 RPM it was eminently driveable, pulled OK and was flexible with little or no turbo lag. After that it was a missile!! It simply took off! The pulling power and torque were unbeleivable for a vehicle that tips the scale at 2.5 tonnes. I used to pull a 19 foot caravan weighing 2.8 tonnes at 110 khm and pull out to overtake a 3 trailer road train at 130 kmh without a grain of concern. (Yeah - I know it'a naughty, but the road was up near Carnaravon - dead straight, see fer
miles!). I never had a problem going slow, off road, uphill with it either.
Tell that Toyota Service Manager that he's a tosser.
Or gimme his number and I'll ring him.
But first, tell me - how steep is that
hill??
Bilbo
(Ex - diesel mechanic, Toyota Turbo Diesel Lover and
well known champion of the underdog, who now drives a Nissan!)
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:43
Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:43
Geoff,
Drive a 79 series ute, for work, that only lacks the intercooler of the 100series. It pulls like a train, even from idle.
Been a bit wet here recently, and have been caught in some heavy silt at times, but a big squirt on loud pedal has saved the day.
Sounds like you have a fuel problem, or the 'puter is on strike. No
hill in suburbia should need low range, not if it's near a school!
Where'd you buy the 100? In Borneo?
Hooroo...
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Follow Up By: Wild Man From Borneo - Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:07
Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:07
Bob,
Thanks for your input. I had a TD 79 series troopy over in Indo & as you said, went very
well. That's why I can understand how Toyota can get it so wrong with the TD 100series manual. Purchased the vehicle in OZ. I think Thommo has got the fix with the Dtronics " It's a shame Toyota cant fix there own issues".
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Reply By: Member - Thommo (Melb) - Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 07:41
Thursday, Apr 06, 2006 at 07:41
Good Morning Geoff,
I have a TD 100 manual first of the new 2003 models brought out and have suffered the exact lack of low down torque you are suffering in high range except
mine was higher than 2000 rpm.
It would not pull skin of a custard let alone my boat up a concrete launching ramp in high at all. Stalls going up hills as per yours etc etc.
After months of frustration and regret from getting rid of the manual 80 series, still kicking myself, I finally went and purchased a Dtronics chip, Intercooler and exhaust which solved the problem to a large degree but however still did not pull like the 80 series uphills, boat ramps etc, but on the flat went like a rocket.
Only got a month to go and the 100 series is getting sold of and replaced by the H2.
Not much help I know but good luck
Regards Thommo
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