100 LC TD Versus V8

Simple answer Nope,

not in my case anyway i would change the vehicle over well before i got the extra $$$$$ back in savings

pmacks

If it is purely a ? of $ then maybe not.

But most people who drive these sort of vehicles have much more go into their decision.....
keeping it 3-5yrs or 10
lots of accessories or few
remote travel or more local etc etc..

Also it is hard to value the driving experience unless you drive both back to back... they are quite different in different conditions.

cheers
JohnN
100 TD ;-)

No 1

Given the ever changing difference in the per ltr cost of ULP v diesel it may be difficult to work out.
My reasoning was "range". I have had petrol 4by's and had to carry too much fuel.
Lots of pluses and minuses, I guess it comes done to personal preference again.

Regards

YES IT IS WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLARS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!! Dont let any petrol head convinve you other wise, you see its not just about fuel cost, but rather rev and torque range, gear ratios, electronics, resale value and of course fuel economy. The V8 sucks that much fuel its disgusting, you have to consider that at 20 cents a litre more for diesel you stll get better economy than the V8. The real question is what can you afford???? Then ask yourself why do Toyota charge so much more for the TD than the V8??? Because its a better more refined motor, with bucket loads of power torque? By the way my father in law picked his up for $64,990 on road and put another $25g's worth or ARB gear on it, let me tell you it is unreal?

Memeber No 1

I have just gone through the process, I traded my 2000 TD manual in for a 2006 V8 Petrol auto. I did some calcs and you have to keep the vehicles to about 180000 - 200000 km to warrant the differance between the two. The vehicle is only going to be used around town and to on the occasional trip of about 2-3 hrs

If you are going to be doing a lot of towing or long distance driving eg around australia, go the turbo. People are right the V8 does suck the juice. I haven't done 1000km's yet so I hope it's starts to get better. A couple of people I know have the V8 and they reckon they get better as they wear in

One good thing is that when you put the foot into it you know it will get up and go

In my experience the resale value difference is considerable and even more so now that fuel prices have gone up and so many people have bailed out of there v8 cruisers and 4.7 patrols.
Therefore I think it is worth the extra spend for sure.

Ps. That V8 is a sweet one though.

My new L/C 4.2 Turbo Diesel has done just over 2000 km. All city driving so far but allready I am getting the economy of 10L/100km. I think this will get better as the motor is run-in. Did not even consider the V8 for various reasons allready mentioned above
Cheers

Oh Follicly Challenged One ,

I has a TD 80 , then a petrol 100 . I could not wait to get back into a diesel again .Diesel is much easier to get hold of in remote areas and I don't like carrying jerry cans of petrol around . With the long range tank in the TD I have terrific range .

The TD has greater resale value too - when they are advertised , they go quickly .
Unless you want to leadfoot it on short trips and around town , I can see no reason ( except initial outlay ) to go for the V8 .

You will be tearing your hair out at the petrol bills , and YOU can't afford to do that !

Cheers ,

Willie

Bored eh Nudie?

The reponses are a little disappointing. Nowhere near as vigorous as you would have hoped.

Not so much as a decent insult yet. Perhaps the banning of Ozi and Musty was a bad thing LOL.

Oh No1 should you even ask a question like that,not that i am 1 eyed or anything BUY THE TD!.Look at the price of petrol 80s compared to the TDs and how hard is it to buy one?I havnt looked back since getting one in 2003 and LOVE IT!cheers Paul

Considering the TD Cruiser has decent performance to start with coming out of a 4.2lt compared to the likes of the overstressed Nissan Patrol 3.0TD or asthmatic performing 4.2TD Patrol, the only considerations in comparisons between V8 Petrol and TD Cruaiser are;

1. How long are you going to keep the vehicle?
If basing your decision purely on running costs alone, then less than 200,000km
of ownership sees the scales tipped towards the V8.

2. How are you going to use it?
A V8 used for regular 4wd touring and non bitumen type driving isn't going to
be worth much at all with 200,000km on the clock, whereas a TD in the same
condition will still be viewed very favourably.

3. If using it for regular non city (country/remote area/outback trips) how
significant is the abysmal fuel range of the V8? With the missus, kids &
associated supplies on board, the V8's consumption is VERY scary, most
owners openly admit to it being pathetic. Tow a decent caravan & be
prepared for 30lt per 100km consumption. With this in mind your planning
needs to be far more precise regarding fuel stops on your planned route.

4. Many NT communites ONLY HAVE DIESEL.

The convenience factor of not having to stop so frequently for fuel also needs to have weighted importance in many cases.

Eg. on a recent day trip with several friends in IDENTICAL LANDCRUISERS, 2 petrol, 2 diesel (we all travelled Indian File) the economy figures were worlds apart. The Petrols returned 8.9mpg, Diesels 15.8mpg. Lousy figues yes, but the conditions were identical for all 4 and the terrain was challenging. Moral is your tanks full of diesel gets you a lot further than a petrol.

4. LPG & hot climates don't mix. Towing a decent caravan in addition to this is a
recipe for disaster! LPG is even less available than Petrol in remote areas. LPG
burns @ about 250deg hotter than petrol and engines on LPG don't like the top
half of Australia when towing a caravan when on an LPG diet. (Even the Taxis
in Darwin & Townsville aren't on LPG)

5. Are you going to tow with the vehicle much?
6. If so how much weight?
The more frequently you tow and the heavier the load, the greater the
justification for the TD

Having driven both vehicles from Melb to Syd towing a Horse Float, there is NO WAY ON EARTH I'd buy a V8 petrol.

Yes the $10,000 price difference does buy a lot of fuel if you buy a V8, but you will be needing to stop for Petrol a LOT more often than Diesel, which is very annoying.

With all the other factors in mind, including resale value as a % of purchase price, the TD is a much better longterm option and I'd suggest that 100,000km of TD ownership and factoring in resale% would be very close. But with a Diesel you will only have to stop for fuel a 1/3 less times and have greater use flexibility.

The more you intend to use the vehicle for what is was designed for and the longer you intend to keep it, the greater the argument for getting a TD.

Put a nice 3inch Mandrel Exhaust, Extractors, a Uni Filter and a Chip in the Diesel and you are set. Power & Torque will be noticeably improved & WAY ahead of the standard V8 as well as having better economy than the standard TD. I know of a TD with more the above improvements with about 230kw that's travelled more than 180,000 km which has included lots of 160km/h plus "NT cruising" that will blow your mind!

Give the V8 a miss!

thanks for the replies guys
i have my mind set on diesel.....but now wonder if a divorce really worth it...certainly cheaper