Bearing buddies
Submitted: Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:56
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what are peoples thoughts on putting bearing buddies on a camper trailer, how would they go with dusty conditions would they be likely to let more dust and grit in on dirt roads or would they give the bearings longer life by being able to keep the grease packed up in the bearings???
regards
Dave
Reply By: The Boy - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 14:04
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 14:04
I run the hub oilers or DURAHUB as called now on my CT and on my 7x4 trailer, have done approx 15000Km on the CT and no problems so far. My CT does alot of rough (gravel) road travells as
well as the black top.
Not had any problems with them at all.
Have heard a lot of people complain that they leak oil and refuse to use them but from investigating further I found that they had not repaired the seal running surface. That is not a fault of the hub oilers in my view, most manufactures of trailers do not design the axles to run on oil but grease so they dont have to machine the seal running area to a higher standard.
I love them and wont be changing back to grease ever again..if I can help it haha
I do how ever carry a spare set of bearings, some grease and a old hub cap just in case murphy decides to stick his head in.
Hope it helps.
The Boy
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Reply By: hl - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 18:05
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 18:05
Hi,
We met some people at Mungerannie. They were towing a box trailer all the way from
Brisbane and heading for WA. They had NO dust caps on the bearings, the grease looked nice and gritty.... don't ask me how they got that far!!!
I think the standard dust caps are fine. We have done more than 50,000k with our box trailer on some pretty intersting roads with no hassles.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 22:32
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 22:32
I'll wade in here,,
I have bearing buddies on current tandem boat trailer,, they have done over 10,000km with no problems including dirt roads in NT,,, this is what they are designed for - boats.
If not doing creek crossings or launching boats etc you don't need em. Fullstop.
Good maintenance always beats fitting a product not required.
Barry
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 23:16
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 23:16
Can't help re: the BB's, but I've just done up my tandem box trailer and you can buy new hubs with bearings, seal, split pin and wheel nuts for $26 each. About 15 minutes per wheel and you've got a new, and what's more important, a KNOWN set of rolling stock on your trailer.
Cheap as chips (not too mention cheap 'insurance' too). If it aint broke, fix it before it is I reckon.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 23:34
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 23:34
If they suck in air, they will suck in water!
All they do is give you a false sense of security.
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Saturday, Apr 08, 2006 at 08:44
Saturday, Apr 08, 2006 at 08:44
I have them on the boat trailer -excellent for that application. My Campomatic CT has large HD axles and hubs and there seems no buddies available for that size. Anyway, they are a great idea for water applications - in theory, you keep the hub full and pressurised at all times and you might not need to service the hub until the bearings are worn and loosening - could be ages. But they do have the drawback of being messy, in that the grease we pump in to keep them full and under slight pressure seeps out of the rear seal while travelling - the inside of the wheels is coated in a mixture of grease, dirt and small stones - and it gets on other componentry nearby as
well. There is that !
I'm happy with the annual hub maintenance on the CT, because I need to
check the electric brake setup anyway. Being a knock in too, the possibilty of falling out on 'some' hub types, as mentioned, could be significant.
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Reply By: Gu_Patrol - Sunday, Apr 09, 2006 at 00:13
Sunday, Apr 09, 2006 at 00:13
I did an experiment with my dual axle boat trailer. one axle had bearing buddies and the other without, the one without had silicone around the dust cap . after 2 years of dunking the trasiler into the water i found the normal dust cap with silicone didn't have any sight of water, the bearing buddy had heaps.
I think they are a waste of money. why don't they fit them to cars, the reason can't be the extra cost, BMW or other expensive cars have them .
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Reply By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Sunday, Apr 09, 2006 at 00:50
Sunday, Apr 09, 2006 at 00:50
Gu agree with your dust cap sealing method, I've used this previously also with good results. The purpose of bearing buddies is to minimise the risk of water entering past the seal in the inner hub side (and of course the outer side) and they can do this
well.
Prior to bearing buddies some keen people had 2 seals on inner hub for boat trailers and some off road applications, one facing in to keep grease in and one facing out to keep water and bulldust out. Some were leather and some were rubber seal faces. Hub was either machined to allow 2 normal size seals to be fitted of if this was not possible you could buy 1/2 width seals to use in existing hub. Generally buggers to fit but very good sealing method.
Later seals had inner and outer neoprene (I think) riges to imitate twin seals, and bearing buddies are another option.
Barry
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Reply By: geordie4x4 - Sunday, Apr 09, 2006 at 01:05
Sunday, Apr 09, 2006 at 01:05
Bearing Buddies are not a low maintenance alternative, on a boat trailer you need to keep them topped up with grease. On a camper they can fall off.
I tow and launch a heavy work boat every day. Have done about 30,000 km last year with Bearing Buddies on dual axle boat trailer. They work
well (for a boat trailer) if you keep the grease topped up and have propper marine seals at the back. I replace the bearings once or even twice yearly and top up grease every month.
I agree with comments that they do let water in, but IMHO, only if the grease is not topped up. They also let dust and sand in by the pistons when I do a lot of beach launches with the boat. So need to be removed and cleaned at least yearly.
On my camper trailer one fell off somewhere in the southern
Flinders Ranges so I put the caps back on both. I have fitted marine rear seals to the camper trailer axle and do not get any leaks or dust problems now.
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