GU Patrol Aux Battery Tray HELP
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 18:57
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PK Eildon (VIC)
Has anyone out there fitted a ARB GU Patrol Diesel Turbo aux battery tray in a 2003 patrol. I have the engine bay in bits and still cannot get it to fit. The mounting brackets for radiator overfill bottles are in the way, but it is fairly major surgery to break the welds off, and then where does the overfill bottle mount. I think I need a 'mintie'
Reply By: lizard - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 19:42
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 19:42
Are you talking the 4.2 TD .... if so the backets fit over/around the overfill bottle - takes a bit of fiddling
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 20:38
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 20:38
Yes it is a 4.2. Have fiddled until Rome burnt, but cannot get it to fit. The brackets welded to the guard stop it going in any which way. Were they on yours.
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Reply By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 20:05
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 20:05
May seem like a stupid statment, but having been there before , I have to say that If you have the 3 L vehicle, the 4.2L tray will not fit...been there done that.
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 20:40
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 20:40
Thanx. I have a 4.2 and so far don't fit that either :o)
I think I'll just opt for a nervous
breakdown, it may be simpler.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:02
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:02
Maybe you have the wrong tray? My 3.0l one fitted easy, its an ARB one and I found the instructions that easy even I could fit it
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:27
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:27
I think I have the right tray, but maybe its for an earlier model. There are 2 brackets welded to the sidewall of
mine to hold the double overflow bottle setup that prevent the tray from sitting properly, and if I took them off there is nowhere to fix the bottles back.
The instructions are easy, and make sense as far as the vacuum canisters, but the overflow bottle is not drawn the same, only a single bottle.
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:23
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:23
PK,
I'll start by saying my battery tray is a TJM one but I'm sure they are both the same design and my Patrol is the 2000 model 4.2 turbo.
The overflow resivior needs to be removed (undo the 10mm/phillips head bolts) before the battery tray can be fitted. Then the overflow bottle can be put back in after the tray has been fitted then the spare batt goes in after this.
Hope this helps.
Trevor.
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:41
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 21:41
Done that. But maybe wondering whether I cannot get tray to go forward enough to go over brackets because of air cleaner. It is standard to my knowledge other than safari
snorkel setup.
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 08:40
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 08:40
I also have Safari
snorkel so this should not be the problem. The batt tray is very close to the air cleaner box though on
mine. Possibly undo the bolts that hold the air cleaner box to the guard, so you can manouvere the battery box in place and see if the air cleaner box will go back to it's original position after this. I would not remove the air cleaner box completely as you will break the seal on the safari
snorkel, but you may be able to shift it enough to get the batt tray in place ???
Good luck.
Trevor.
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 22:15
Sunday, Apr 16, 2006 at 22:15
PK
Not sure of the likeness between 4.2GU and 4.2GQ but my precleaner air filter was removed to fit Safari
snorkel. Battery tray then fitted in nicely.
My mate has a 99 4.2GU and his battery box is fitted near the firewall on left side. It is only suited for a smaller battery thoughj.
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:03
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:03
It does go on left, but is for full size battery. I think the double bottle overfill setup on my model causes the problem. Amazing what an angle grinder can do. What's left fits real nice now :)).
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Reply By: Member - John - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 09:27
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 09:27
PK, I have fitted the ARB tray to my 4.2 TD, I cut the front side to clear the air cleaner, same as the rear or the other way around, can't remember, can take a couple of pics if you wish.
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:20
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:20
Thanks
John
As it turns out the air cleaner not the problem. Tight fit up against it, but had to angle grind some of the rear of tray to get it over the overfill bottles mounting brackets that are spot welded to side wall.
All OK Now
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Reply By: warthog - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 09:50
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 09:50
I have a '00 td42t and fitted a battery carrier from www.4wdsystems .com.au. I had a bit of trouble fitting it, in that the carrier required some panel beating to go around the air cleaner housing. It did fit in the end and appears fairly strongly made and mounted, the instructions that came with it were not the best though.
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:21
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:21
Thanks warthog
Used an angle grinder and it is in neat and tight now.
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Reply By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 18:59
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 18:59
Thanx people. I have it nearly in at last. Took to it with the sharp end of an angle grinder. Had to remove quite a bit where is connects to the guard. The problem with the later model GU is a different setup for overflow bottles. Still a tight fit though.
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Reply By: Bartz4b - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:06
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:06
PK
I've just had a look at mine. I put an ARB tray in my 2003 4.2td a couple of months ago and had no problems. The tray bracket (stay) bolts on to the 'side wall' approx 10mm in front of the front bottle mount. This puts the tray bracket amost against the air cleaner canister. The hole that the tray bracket bolt uses is the hole that was used by a wiring harness clip. Just remove the clip altogether and bolt up the tray. There is a scolloped section on the tray bracket that allows for the wiring harness. The bracket is
well clear of the bottle bracket and I didn't need to modify the existing bottle mounts.
Hope this helps
Bart
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Follow Up By: PK Eildon (VIC) - Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:17
Monday, Apr 17, 2006 at 19:17
Thankyou Bart
Is your overfill bottle a double bottle setup with brackets mounted off the side wall. Those brackets for me were the same width as the tray and I either had to break spot welds on brackets, or cut some of the back off the tray. I opted for the later and it fits as you describe.
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