Helping aajih re: post 32936

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 18, 2006 at 23:55
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I have been thinking about this for 2 days and decided to see what comes of this idea. Aajih's post states clearly that a fridge and solar panels would be their ideal solution. Is it feasible that WE create that ideal? Having just checked the stats, there is 1121 members and who knows how many regular visitors? Let's say a rough figure of 1200. Let's say a rough figure of $3600 for the set-up; that's only $3 each. If only 1/4 contribute it's only $12 each. Now this is only an idea and there are many factors involved; like how would the money be pooled? From aajih's post they are in Sydney so ideally some folk in Sydney could organise the receipt of money and perhaps even the accessory set-up. I know this is a big call, especially as I'm asking others to actually do it; I am merely providing the idea but will pledge $20 to this cause. Perhaps aajih doesn't even want our charity? But imagine how much simpler their travels would be!
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Reply By: Brian B- Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 00:33

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 00:33
Good idea I am also happy to contribute.

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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:14

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:14
You are a good man. Good on ya

Count me in. Lets get the ball rolling
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Reply By: Jo and Mark - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:21

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:21
Bware you are brilliant!

Count us in! Just for coming up with a brain storm like that, we may well have to drive down to the Tweed for a days driving in celebration!
Jo
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 16:38

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 16:38
I would really enjoy a catch-up. I've been working nights and weekends for ever and it's such a tease reading about the QLD get-togethers just up the road. My situation looks like it may change soon and I may not have to work Friday/Saturday nights so I'll be able to come out and play on the weekends! Yippee!
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:31

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:31
Know what you mean! iti s 5.30pm now and I have to head out the door for work and will get home at 6am tomorrow morning, Same saturday morning I will finish then, but won't bother with sleep cause we are going to get dirty.. gee I'll sleep well saturday night.
You say a day you want to drive and we will come down!
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Reply By: Member - Loco Locums - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:50

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:50
GR8 Idea...we're in and to keep the momentum, awareness is the key to the success of this wonderful idea. Should we contact David from Exploroz and see if he will put a lttle blurb on this site.

Also, someone locally in Sydney might be able to contact some suppliers with the story and hopefully get a business interested in supplying the equipment at cost or slightly over...or donating the labour content of installation???

Anyway, We're sure that there is someone local in Sydney that can do the ground work for us....We're currently in Rockhampton....but only for a week and then we're heading into Central OZ for 2 MONTHS HOLIDAZE so we need to get the ball rolling.

Again GR8 stuff BWARE.

Cheers
Rick & Julie
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Reply By: Brad - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:28

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:28
The 4WD and Camping Show starts this weekend at Rosehill, Sydney. I will be there Monday. I could approach people there. Perhaps a fridge and dual battery might be better than solar panels??????
If anybody is going earlier than Mon, perhaps they might be able to look into it and post any response from suppliers.
Cheers
Brad
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Follow Up By: Member - Loco Locums - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:54

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:54
Hi Brad,
Good starting place and good to have feet on the ground so to speak.....Yep fridge/frezer and dual batteries would be good, however reading their post they will be travelling with a caravan and wanting to spend weeks at a a time in the bush. So solar recharging for the batteries is going to be a benefit.

Cheers
Rick & Julie
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Reply By: Member - Loco Locums - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 09:34

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 09:34
Just another thought or 2.....awareness could be instant if David were to do a special NEWS BULLETIN to the membership...also, I just checked the trader section of this web site and there is for sale for $1600.00

"60ltr engel E serries, with cover bag and solar panel all in very good condition can email pictures"

Just thoughts for the Think Tank.

Cheers All
RIck & Julie
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:56

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:56
My missus thought of this idea the other night, I just wasn't sure how it would be received by the masses... Count me in, why should they miss out on a holiday which may well be the highlight of young child in need of some cheering up...???
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Reply By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 16:15

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 16:15
Hey all,
Great support and ideas. I've noticed that in the original post by aajih, Trevor R (QLD) has very generously offered a loan of his fridge! Great stuff mate. I guess we now need to find out if that offer is accepted and in the meantime keep the 'pass around the hat' idea going incase they need a power supply?
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Reply By: bombsquad - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 16:43

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 16:43
Just a bit of a thought on this idea - especially with referance to the last line in Bware's post "Perhaps aajih doesn't even want our charity?" It can be hard for people in need to accept charity. This is understandable. Maybe a kit (or 2) of fridge/portable solar panel/thumper battery type set up could be provided by explorer oz (funded by member and visitor donations) can be made available for such circumstances.....

I will gladly donate to Bware's suggestion

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:08

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:08
As a loan or hire unit?
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Follow Up By: bombsquad - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:25

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:25
something along those lines. It would be difficult as we live in a big place, but if it can provide a deserving family with the means to have a bit of the good life I am all for it. As a loan unit, it could give several families in need of a good break in the outback, and could be used for members get togethers etc. It may not be too easy to administer - ie who can and can't use it, but as a loaner/hire unit it may help more people. It may also help those who are in need but are uncomfortable with outright 'donations', and are more comfortable with a loaner.

Just throwing a few ideas into the 'forumstorm'

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:36

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 17:36
I like that idea; overcomes the 'charity' stigma and can help more than one family out. I think you're really onto something there.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 18:11

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 18:11
Could become an administrative nightmare though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 22:59

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 22:59
That's a good practical point Shaker. Although I do believe there is a solution to every challenge; why let reality get in the way of a good dream? LOL
Seriously though, it is early days and more ideas/opportunities may present themselves yet.
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Reply By: Joe King - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 20:38

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006 at 20:38
What ever way you decide to go, post the outcome of how to contribute.
I want in....
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Reply By: Jo and Mark - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 00:27

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 00:27
how are things looking? Bware remember to jot down my email addy from the follow up post earlier on mate!

The one problem I have seen with the forum board is that important threads like this and members/visitors get to gether threads can all get pushed to pages two and three very quicky, David have you got a way on the forum where you can 'sticky' particular threads to page one and then they can just be removed when all is over and done with?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 00:37

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 00:37
Yep you're right. I check the board fairly often during the day but this is the first time I've noticed this thread. I usually don't get off the first page, they can slip down very very quick.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:59

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:59
Hi Jo and Mark, thought I'd got your address but can't find it. Dunno if I'm going blind but I can't see it on here either! Please give it again. Mine is- jenandbri at optusnet dot com dot au.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:02

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:02
In regards to the post ending up on page 3, I will contact David for some advice today before I go to work. Also many people are probably still on holidays. If there's others like me out there, I didn't realise for a couple of months after first discovering this forum that you can choose 'post ID' or 'most recent' to view posts LOL Another factor is that Friday and Saturday evenings have the most traffic and this was posted early in the week. So in light of this we need to keep this thread alive this weekend for the best result. We do that by submitting answers and follow ups to this post and aajih's original post as well (for a better understanding of this post) to keep them at the top when in 'most recent' mode. Everyone switch to 'most recent' NOW :)
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Follow Up By: drifta - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:49

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:49
If your a member as i see most of you are there is the function in "my home" that shows you every post that has been added or updated since you were last logged on.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:58

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:58
That's true drifta and can be a help but sometimes I'm logged on for up to 16 hours without a break, I'm not sitting here reading the forum for 16 hours I may only look for an hour or so but messages can slip right of the page in that time. Maybe I should log off and on more often.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:17

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:17
Yes Ray, that's what I do; have it on whenever I'm home and check it out when I'm having a cuppa or a beer(depending what time of day it is).
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 00:38

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 00:38
I'm in.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:47

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:47
Thanks Ray.
BTW, love that photo!
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Reply By: Jo and Mark - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:48

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:48
Hmmmmmmmm David mighten see what we have posted about having some sticky threads on page one.... I will email him and ask him to find this thread.
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Reply By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:02

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:02
At this point there hasn't been the response I'd hoped but that could be for reasons stated above. We'll see what this weekend brings! Anyone interested can contact me by MM or email to jenandbri at optusnet dot com dot au.
A couple of other points:
I've re-read aajih's post and couldn't find mention of travel dates so we don't know what time-frame we have to work with.
Trevor R's offer of loaning his fridge still stands and he will let me know if or when it is accepted by Anne.
There are good ideas in this post; if anyone is willing to take them on feel free to do so ie Loco Locums and Brad's posts about approaching suppliers in Sydney or at the Rosehill show. Even though we don't know what we want yet, the seed could be planted and some sort of commitment offered by a supplier.
Bombsquad's idea of an EO 'loan fridge' set -up has real merit as an on-going project and if it killed two birds with one stone and helped Anne out as well, all the better. And to think there's a fridge and solar panel in the trader section...... (thanks for spotting that Loco Locums)
More on the 'loan fridge' idea; since it would be used by different travellers, what sort of set-up would be most easily transferred from one rig to another? I'm sure we could start another thread with that one ;)
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:31

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:31
Aren't there already places that hire fridges?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:22

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:22
Yeah, hiring out seems pointless. It would have to be loaned for free to people meeting certain criteria ie aajih can't afford one and has a family member with dietery needs which could be very hard to meet without a freezer. Of course, 'meeting criteria' opens another can of worms but if that is the road we went down we would have atleast the 5 months that aajih is travelling to thrash out the 'administrative nightmare'
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:01

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:01
I'm sorry to be the devil's advocate but it will never happen.
Somebody would have to administer the whole thing, which would involve packaging & despatch of the goods, ensuring their return, cleaning, maintaining & storing etc.
Also how would the decision be made as to who meets the criteria for free use, who pays for transport & packaging?
I think you will find that it will be outside the parameters to be delivered by Australia Post, which only leaves general couriers as the major transport companies will only deliver for account holders.

You have very good intentions, but I think it will all get too hard
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:26

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:26
Don't be sorry mate, us idealists need a good dose of reality! I appreciate you taking the time to post on this matter.
I have thought about some of your questions already and have some ideas in the back of my mind but at this stage we don't even know if it will eventuate so it's too early to get bogged down in details. I agree that it seems complicated and I like to keep things simple; if their isn't a simple workable way of doing it, it probably would all get to hard!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 15:02

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 15:02
It makes sense to get 'bogged down with details' before any money is collected.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 16:02

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 16:02
Fair enough, and lack of details may actually deter some folk. At this point let me state categorically that I in no way want people sending money to me! I was hoping that someone out there may have done something like this before and know how to set up a collection fund?
I was thinking that IF enough people got involved to help Anne and IF we bought a fridge and solar panel and IF Anne used it for 5 months we could decide if holding on to it and using as a 'loan fridge' is to be put in the 'too hard' basket and it could then be donated to a volunteer group who could use it like people that take under-privileged children camping, or the coast guard....That's not a real lot of detail, but it is workable. Feel free anybody to jump in with more suggestions... any time now!
Heading off to work now.
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Reply By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:11

Friday, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:11
OK the way I see it is we don't know how this will pan out. For all I know, Anne posted the day before she hit the road and there's no way to contact her. Unless she responds to either post we can't do much. If we keep the posts alive until the end of the weekend we will know how many others are interested in helping. I'm working tonight and tomorrow night so keeping the posts at the top of the page during the evenings is up to others :) Let's see what happens....
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