Cruiser Mirror Switch

Submitted: Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 15:57
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Help you of all knowledge,
My 80 series cruiser mirrors ceased working on the weekend in that they only go sideways and not up and down. Before I spend $239.00 in a new switch that can't be returned to Toyota, I would like some assurance that it is a fauly switch.
Is there any way I can check?
Thanks,
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Reply By: Frank_Troopy - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 17:24

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 17:24
Hi Phantom,
Can you short out the terminals and see if the mirrors move? If you can't do that you won't be able to replace the switch anyway.

right hand mirror Up Green --> Yellow White/Black --> White
Down Green --> White White/Black --> Yellow

left hand mirrow UP Green --> Yellow/Red White/Black --> White
Down Green --> White White/Black --> Yellow/Red

It would seem very likely that it is the switch. For $239.00, I'd be inclined to have a go at pulling the switch apart and fixing it, or at least squirting some CRC into it.

Cheers Frank.
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Follow Up By: phantom - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 17:31

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 17:31
Thanks Frank, I'll try it tonight. The switch appears to be a sealed unit so I would probably destroy it getting it apart. I have since found one at a wreckers for $80.00.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 18:12

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 18:12
Why dont you check the operation of the switch with a multimeter to see if it works?
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Follow Up By: phantom - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 21:25

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 21:25
Frank & Bonz,
I have pulled the switch out and I don't have the wire colours mentioned other than green and a large white. I have brown, green with a red stripe. I stuck my multimeter in the holes and got current of around .5volts but I don't know what that is telling me. I also squirted the switch with CRC but nothing...
I must say I really am a dumb bunny when it comes to electrics.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 21:31

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 21:31
Bunny eh youre about two weeks late mate.....

Stick your meter on volts on a range at least 15 v and test each wire to earth, black to earth red to each wire, earth is like the body of the car, if you can find a non-rusty bit of metal on a Toyota.

You should be able to identify the live wire, it'll be the one with 12 (ish) volts on it with the ignition switch on. Then touch the live wire on each of the others and see if the window moves up or down, if it does the switch is stuffed, if it doesnt the motor is stuffed or both (a) and (b) if your not sure what youre doing.

Of course Toyota being Toyota they may use a positive earth arrangement, they do on some Troopy's (I aint kidding here). If thats the case then more head scratching is needed and several bex's and a lie down.
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Follow Up By: phantom - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 22:04

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 22:04
Hey Bonz. You wouldn't be trying to sabotage me cos you drive that other brand!
I went out in the dark and the rain in sunny Perth and found the live wire. I then got a paper clip and stuck it in the other holes and guess what...I blew a fuse.
Enough for tonight, I'll reinvent the system tomorrow when I replace the fuse.
Anymore good ideas???
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Steve
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 22:06

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 22:06
Oh my no sabotage, lucky we have fuses, maybe the motors cactus

And did I mention a paper clip????
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Follow Up By: Frank_Troopy - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 23:53

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 23:53
Hi Steve,
There seems to be a difference between your 80 and the diagram in my manual. I'd say it's still likely that the green is +12V and the white is the common wire to both mirrors. It sounds like you found the positive and the earth wire with your paper clip already.

I'd try green to brown and white to earth, then green to white and brown to earth. One of the mirrors should move both ways doing this. Then do the same substituting the green/red for the brown and the other mirror should move both ways.

The only reason to check that the mirrors work is to cover the small chance that a mirror motor fault has caused a problem in the switch. If this was the case then a new switch could also be damaged. It's very unlikely.

Cheers Frank.

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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 18:39

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 18:39
Hi Phantom,

I would pull the mirror apart and check it first. There are some dodgy plastic lugs which break off and can stop the mirror from moving, a good way to check if the switch is actually running the motor as well. There are two motors in the mirror (up and down as well as side to side), one of them might be gone as well, so worth checking before you buy a switch.

If you are up for a new mirror (not surprisingly it comes as a complete unit only), save yourself the trip to Toyota as the cost is not good for those with a heart condition. I told the spare parts guy at Toyota that I was only after the mirror, not the f___ing door.

He didn't think I was very funny.

Cheers,

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Follow Up By: phantom - Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 21:21

Monday, Apr 24, 2006 at 21:21
Thanks Matt,
Yes, I have been down that path. In fact I started playing with my LH mirror because it was already dodgy. To put it in perspective, to replace both mirrors and the switch from Toyota would not leave much change from $1000.00. Scary, isn't it. I did not know that there were two motors but up til now my rh mirror worked fine. Now neither go up or down. I thought I may have stuffed something that linked both mirrors but don't know.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Apr 28, 2006 at 08:05

Friday, Apr 28, 2006 at 08:05
Hi
These switches are not only in the cruiser, but also in taragos, camrys etc etc....check out the local wrecker...they are not what i would call unreliable....infact, this is the first problem like this i have heard about....in the 5 years ive owned an 80
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