Coupler better than Treg?

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Hello, this is my first post here-- impressive site. We live in Reno, NV, USA near Lake Tahoe. For a number of years i have used a Treg coupler on my two trailers. (it's interchangable between the two). I have rolled the trailers over on difficult terrain (Rubicon Trail) and am other wise vbery happy with the performance. The only thing i do not like is the up/down limitation of the coupler. &0 degrees, or so is a lot, but for extreme gully crossings, i have found the limit if the Treg.

Is there a better alternative? I read somewhere about a better design and am interested in making a purchase. Ideas anyone? All suggestions appreciated. Here are a few pictures of my trailers in action.

mark
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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:21

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:21
Hi there,

I think the issue is the wheel spacing on your trailer and not the Treg. In general we use the same wheen spacing as the car and this helps avoid flips. You should see some of the trails over here we take trailers on.

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Reply By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:48

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:48
G'day

Have a browse here Vehicle Compnents. I am sure they would assist if you dropped them some email as well. They are in Brisbane Queensland.

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Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:02

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:02
The ORAC coupling is used by O'Briens Trailers in Dandenong Vic. It is fully articulated, and a bit easier to line up than the Treg.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:12

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:12
O'Briens hitch can be found here www.obrienstrailers.com.au/default.html and follow links through accessories.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:17

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:17
Yes,

Would agree with these comments.

The Treg coupling allows about 23 deg. up/down from horizontal (46 deg. total)
where as the Orac has a 90 deg. articulation from horizontal. (180 deg total)

Big effort to convert the couplings over though.

www.campertrailers.org/couplings.htm
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY VIC) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:49

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:49
gday
I use a coupler from O'Brian ORAC and have never had a problem at all.I think that they are well made and quite easy to line up with the tow bar.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:48

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:48
can the orac be fitted to a hydraulic brake system?
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 16:03

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 16:03
Just looking at it, I don't see why not, but you'd need someone with a bit more knowledge on the subject for aproper answer to that one.
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Reply By: Toytruck - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:29

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:29
I have run an Orac for years and love it. I have dragged my trailer into places trailers aint suposed to go, maintaining common sense of course, and never had a problem.

Cheers
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Reply By: RARECJ8 - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:37

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:37
Thank you gentlemen-- the ORAC is exactly what i am looking for-- it offerst he desired 90 degree articulation-- much more range of movement than the Treg-- don't get me wrong-- the Treg has served me well for many years, but i need greater articulation for the difficult trails we explore.

i emailed o'brians looking for a US distributor, so we'll see if that is possible or whether i must pay hefty international shipping charges.

Here in the Nevada desert, we have all sorts of extreme conditions-- mountains with deep snow, rain swolen rivers and hot, sandy plains. I appreciate all the innovative outback survival and 4x4 ideas from Austrailia. I have an ARB freezer fridge, ARB lockers, OME shocks, etc. Good job and thanks again for the helpful responses.

ciao for now
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:42

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:42
Mark

To contain your international shipping charges have it shipped via the postal service ( Australia Post ).

Do not use surface mail (takes months). Have them post it air mail. You will get it in about 10 days. Much cheaper than Fed Ex.

Regards

Paul
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 09:25

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 09:25
Yep, I'd vote for Aust Post, Had some bits for the O'Briens Trailer shipped from Melbourne to Fitzroy Crossing, which is nearly as remote as the US of A. Was going to cost $300.00 odd dollars to use Air Express and take a week, Aust Post did it for $45.00 and it took 5 days.

Good luck Mark
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Reply By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 09:53

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 09:53
whats that pile of rubish you 've got in the trailer....hehehe
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Follow Up By: RARECJ8 - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:42

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:42
That rubbish is the remains of a 1930s era car hulk that was rusting away in a local creek, which is one source for our local water supply. Our 4x4 club holds regular clean-up events to clear away trash, debris and other refuse dumped there by uncaring idiots. Its that dumping that justifies closure of favorite 4x4 trails by the anti-access factions. So we go out and volunteer our time to clean up the mess. For that car, we cut it into small pieces and hauled it away to the landfill. Sadly, we often clean up an area and it is soon trashed again and the cycle repeats itself. The majority of dumpers are those tightwads that will not pay $10 US to the landfill; rather, they go out into the hills and just dump it there. Another problem is underage kids drinking and since they don't care to be caught with any evidence, just dump their empty beer/liquor bottles/cans along the road. The last group is the recreational target shooters-- they haul old appliances into the hills and after shooting them full of holes, just leave the mess and drive away.

Its a beautiful day here and it finally stopped snowing and raining. Think i'll take the quad for a spin. After a busy day at work, i'll treat myself to a few cold adult refreshments!
mark

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:50

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:50
we have the same type of jerks here in aus too....
in South Australia we have a refundable deposit (5c) on most containers but it aint enough to stop juveniles dropping them, where they end up in our waterways or just generally pollute the environment......

we also have those other jerks who will not fork out the money to take their rubbish to the transfer stations where most is put into bins for appropriate recycling..ie steel, concrete, vegitable
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:25

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:25
You showed me yours, so I'll show you mine hahahaha
Hope this works as it's the first time I've tried to put up a photo here.
Cannibal Creek
This was taken on the main Cape York track. Plenty of creek crossings like this and better over a 600 or 700 km track one way.

Cheers Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:30

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:30
Nope that didn't work.
Try...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i230/DieselDrifter/PathyinCannibal.jpg

I'll have to work the link thingy out later. Hahahaha

Trevor.
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Reply By: RARECJ8 - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:35

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:35
here is what happens when i am late getting into camp, the beers are waiting and i suffer a roll over. That was fun to get righted, since i was alone-- had to unhitch and use the winch.

we'll see if this works.

mark

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Follow Up By: RARECJ8 - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:42

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:42
image tags won't fork, so how about this: I do not see an 'edit' t ab for the forum to fix my posts. sorry for the repeat.


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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:47

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:47
ouch....buts it is a novel way to change tyres
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:49

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 15:49
Bugger. Aren't those round black thingies supposed to be on the bottom?
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 17:40

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 17:40
"Bugger. Aren't those round black thingies supposed to be on the bottom?"

Gold Norm!!!!! Absolute Gold!!!
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Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 at 19:39
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Reply By: dublediff - Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 23:06

Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 23:06
I hear that the rubicon trail is one hell of a test track, so much so that Jeep test all of their new vehicles on it- particularly the cj shorties like yours. I have seen some of the photos from these tests and it looks extreme. the first photos of your trailer in action didn't quite fit the description of "in action" but the last one certainly did (lol)! I can vouch for the orac, I have one on my camper van, which is like a small caravan with the roof pushed down by a large heavy press - certainly feels like that when I come to winch it up! I have put that van through some tight spots in the past and it has never let me down. Go the orac...
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Reply By: RARECJ8 - Thursday, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:18

Thursday, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:18
My 1981 CJ is known as a Scrambler or more specifically, a CJ8. It is the longest Jeep made-- it has 109 inches of wheelbase. They were made between 81-86; total run was 27,000 units. they are quite rare here, thus my handle. This pic is taken on the Granite Bowl section of the Rubicon last year. It is one of those 'must do' trails. The Jeep Jamboree folks offer a pay/drive option for visitors that do not care to transport their rig to the trail. It takes minimum two days to traverse the 17 miles (km?) but we take a leisurely pace and use 4 days to do the trail. If anyone ever gets a chance to visit the US during July, the HOT season here, look into the drive deal-- it is truly a once in a lifetime experience to drive those tortured 17 miles. The pay deal is approximately $1,500 USspendy for sure, but it includes hotel stay before/after the run, all meals and best of all, an open bar. They also offer free helicopter rides in main camp. we live about one hour drive to the trailhead. This coming Saturday, we are doing a snow run and i provide a shot from two weeks ago on another snow adventure. Get much snow down under?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSCN3641.jpg
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http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSCN2832.jpg

Here are a few pix of the trail...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSCN3661.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSCN3644.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSCN3630.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/DSCN3642.jpg

mark

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Reply By: RARECJ8 - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 07:35

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 07:35
such wonderful news of the Tazmanian miners and their great escape. With so many mining deaths, its refreshing to have some good news. We live in Reno, Nevada and mining is in our blood. Virginia City (the famous Comstock Lode) is but 30 minutes away and active gold mining occurs to this day.

On an OZ note, i just took delivery of my new shop boots from Rossi-- very well made and comfortable-- another fine product from down under.

mark
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