Inverters
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:36
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Rosco - Qld
I checked the archives, but there doesn't appear to be a suitable answer to my conundrum. I'm thinking of an inexpensive inverter, merely to recharge camera batteries and the like.
Would an el cheapo inverter do the job without damaging the rechargeable batteries??
Some of our gear doesn't have the facility for recharging off 12V, hence my thoughts of an inexpensive mod sine wave jobbie, perhaps only 100W, if such an animal exists.
Suggestions ???
Cheers
Rosco
Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:54
Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:54
Hey Rosco, try Dicky Smith or Jacar... I recently saw in Aldi a small inverter that was can sized that could be sat in a drink holder. Supercheap had some smaller
inverters as
well. Repco has smaller ones as
well, so safe to say that they exist.
Not sure about recharging Ni Hydride but Ni Cad definatley like a bit of a ripple in the charging current. Ni Cads die when dendrites grow internally and "short out' the Centre electrode with the case usually the cathode, Can be regenerated by "zapping" with a higher voltage to dissolve the dendritic growths...
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Qld - Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 13:02
Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 13:02
........dendritic growths...
Sounds like the sort of crap I get off my teeth with dental floss .. LOL
So are you saying a cheepie may not suit??
Only tallking about the odd recharge over a period of a few weeks/month??
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 13:23
Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 13:23
No... A cheapy should go ok if you want to charge batteries via a 240 Volt charger. The charger should cope with any extranious spikes etc from the inverter as it should have its own power conditioner in it. People make out that the mains are "pure" 240vac but hey sorry they can be all over the place with voltage spikes, and as for staying at a constant 50khz... yeah
well pigs can fly...
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 17:39
Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 at 17:39
I'm sure is a typo, the 50 kilo Hz you mention...
As to being stable, consider this: the frequency is determined by the rotary speed of the alternators at the power station. Where several stations are connected in a power
grid, ALL the alternators have to generate exactly the same frequency and phase.
It would be very difficult to speed up or slow down ALL of them unless you find a way to remove a very large portion of the load or add a very large load on the
grid.
I would think that over a 24 hour period the average frquency is very close to exactly 50Hz and for short instances varies by less than 1 Hz.
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Apr 27, 2006 at 20:23
Thursday, Apr 27, 2006 at 20:23
The accuracy of mains powered clocks is based purely on it being 50.0000Hz. The electricity generator authorities count the cycles and will trim the frequency to keep the clocks accurate.
To produce a chnage in the 50Hz frequency you would have to change the speed of hundreds of tons of rotors in all the generators connected to teh network.
Mike
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:56
Thursday, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:56
Rosco,
There appears to be too many ill-informed people giving poor advice on this topic.
Your stated need is to charge camera batteries via a charger unit and for this purpose, a modified sine wave Inverter (MSW) will do the job without damage to your charger, or the batteries connected to it.
You can buy a good quality unit from Jaycar for as little as $49 for a 150 watt MSW Inverter, or $89 for a 300 watt MSW unit. If size (space) is an issue they also have the "can style" 140 watt MSW units for $69.95 according to their catalogue.
If you intend using the Inverter for other purposes, including things such as a Laptop (some of which will not operate from a MSW Inverter), then and only then, would I consider the more expensive pure sine wave units.
These have reduced in price considerably in recent times.
Jaycar sell a pure sine wave 300 watt unit for $289 and at only 60 dollars more than a 150 watt unit, this is the one I would recommend IF you wished to invest in a Pure sign wave Inverter.
I have referenced Jaycar purely because they have a good online reference on the equipment they sell. Dick Smith's may offer similar equipment but their web site is very poor to negotiate.
As Derek has mentioned, there is also the Projecta brand units.
The final choice is up to you, the use you wish and how much you are prepared to pay.
Hope I have adequately explained the different options for you and removed some of the myths surrounding the Inverter saga.
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