trailers in the simpson

Submitted: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 19:58
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this 1's for those who have towed a trailer across the simpson
what sort of fuel consumption did you get
friends have a triton gas/petrol and are taking their trailer when we go in late july and just wondering what sort of run they will get with their fuel load

steve
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Reply By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 20:50

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 20:50
I went across twice in 2005, once with trailer and once without. Same fuel consumption both times.
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Follow Up By: Old Scalyback & denny - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 21:28

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 21:28
thanks for that
we are just trying to gauge whether or not to carry extra extra fuel or just a bit of extra

happy birthday too

steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 22:50

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 22:50
yes John, happy birthday,

and Steve I did one of the crossings with him...
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Reply By: RobEG - Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 21:42

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 21:42
Steve

I haven't done the Simpson but have done a lot of towing and sand driving with both petrol/gas and diesel. The consumption of the petrol/gas was noticeably higher than normal compared with the diesel. Might be a good idea to also get a view of someone with a similar rig because I suspect it will be higher. There is a page somewhere on this site which might help but some of them are not too specific about their rigs.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 00:10

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 00:10
I did the trip west to east in about 600km (scenic route) from Mt Dare to Birdsville used about 110l.

Rig pick taken on that trip.

Duncs
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 07:48

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 07:48
G'day,

Did it in Sept last year, big load and I think we used 175 litres so I would think that he wouldn't need more than that as the Patrol is pretty thirsty.



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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:25

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:25
PS. I wouldn't be worried about carrying too much fuel (like that warm and cosy feeling) but not enough - even a little can be a real PITA
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael O (NSW) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:34

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:34
Holy Sand Flags Beatit!

That one would be a danger to avation wouldn't it??????
Monday I have Friday on my mind...
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Follow Up By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:40

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 16:40
Hi!

What sort of aerodynamic drag does a flag pole that high have? LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Friday, May 05, 2006 at 08:32

Friday, May 05, 2006 at 08:32
Hi Michael and Alan,

I have a simple philosophy on these things, if they are needed to provide warnings to oncoming traffic, then I want to be seen. No half hearted effort with this one! It worked very well and completed the journey unscathed.

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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:43

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:43
Hi Steve when we did it from Birdsville to Dalhousie and i used about 75litres, which is around 17l/100, i was a tad overloaded i also carried an extra 30litres just in case, i put that in when i got to Dalhousie.

That was my worst economy for the whole trip, the rest of the trip i got around 13l/100.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:59

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:59
Geez Baz, did you have the missus pushing or what? I suspect that the triton may not be as good as that.

Kind regards
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:58

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 08:58
Steve,

Did Innamincka to Mt Dare last May in petrol Hilux NOT towing and used around 150 litres. Got about 16l/100k whereas normal driving is under 12l/100k.

Suggest your mate tests the difference in towing/not towing on highway to get a feel for that difference then go from there. My experience would be to allow an additional 30% or so on top of his towing figure.

The route and prevailing conditions at the time will have an effect as well.

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Reply By: scoof - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 10:53

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 10:53
Went from west to east late last June (2005) used 140 litres V6 Pajero with C/T. The going was easy we went after a good rain , may use more if the sand is dry.
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Reply By: Longreach - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 11:39

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 11:39
In 2004, LC100 with trailer, well loaded up, Mt Dare to Birdsville 691 km , 162 litres. This wasn't the most direct way to do it.
With all the info and warning signs at the start, I was surprised to come across 2 (separate) travellers running low on fuel.
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Reply By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:02

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:02
Willem phoned on sat phone last evening - he's at Erabena Track and had met up with Wim (Q). He asked me to tell everyone they are doing it very tough and have helped dig out a number of people. I told him I had been telling everyone how tough it is in the Simpson this year - and he said I had to try harder and make sure they understood. Willem is not towing anything and they were moving west to east. It seems a waste of my time to let people know the conditions in the Simpson when people take little notice.
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:26

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:26
G'day Ruth,

Well I for one appreciates your advise and track info. You are an EO treasure and your heart is in the right place. I like your electronic company and hope to make a return visit to Birdsville if for no other reason just to say hi!

My bride has all but ruled out another crossing and my travelling companions (he has a trachy hole) can't cope with the dry air so a visit to see the place and do big red is probably all we would do.

Kind regards

Theo
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Follow Up By: Longreach - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:47

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 15:47
The Desert Parks Bulletin currently includes the following -:

"Due to a change of track conditions inthe Simpson Desert, DEH recommends that only visitors with extensive sand-driving experince should consider crossing at this time. Visitors are advised to drive in a convoy, carry a HF radio or sat phone and limit the total load of their vehicles. However, do take extra reserves of fuel and water. The trip may take longer than normal and some digging is likely. Over the summer period, strong and consistent easterly winds have built up a steeper than usual western face to the dunes. This western face can be very steep and soft and the track over the dune has disapperaed in places. While the situation will improve as more vehicles cross the desert, at this time visitors should plan for a difficult crossing. Check local conditions before travelling in the area. Delays are possible due to monsoonal rains."
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 18:14

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 18:14
Over the past few years those towing a well prepared camper that isn't overloaded have crossed the Simpson with little trouble & no damage, but the problem now is convincing those going this season that just getting the car over will be hard enough & trailers should be left behind. You're certainly not wasting your time Ruth advising everyone of the conditions as the majority I'm sure are listening & heeding your advice but plenty are out there purely for the challenge & will go no matter what. Lets hope too many don't get stuck putting people at risk & forcing a premature ban of trailers in the desert.
With my own trip to the desert later in the year I look forward to all the reports so I can more accurately estimate fuel useage on the Madigan. Unfortunately fuel usage on previous trips in other years could be innacurate & people should be carrying a bit more in reserve until conditions improve.
Cheers Craig...........
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 17:15

Thursday, May 04, 2006 at 17:15
Goodday Ruthand others
Ruth we are listening and as time closes in I will be in touch at the minute we are just feeling our way
it may be a visit to birdsville a play on the sandhills and keep wandering
to cross the desert would be great but neither I or my travelling companions are really stupid and we all value the world around us

steve
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