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Submitted: Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:25
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Hi.
I am too tight to buy a quality winch and cable, so was wondering if I can use an egg beater, with a shoelace tied to it to pull the queen mary up onto my cardboard trailer rolling on dirt?

Any ideas how I can change the gearing on the egg beater.

I will be using Bata Quality SCHOOL STRENGTH Shoelaces, so that wont be the weak point I dont think, but the front of the ship maybe.

Does anyone see any problems with this?

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Reply By: Wazza - (Vic) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:28

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:28
Can you buy these egg beaters on Flea-Bay?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:29

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:29
They are too expensive for me, I want the reject shop ones.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:32

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:32
I can thoroughly recommend the $2 shop ones for your application.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:33

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:33
I am disappointed that the Whyalla club didnt think of this in their testing, thats just plain stupid..

not all of us have endless money...
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:35

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:35
They were advertising them at $1.50 so I rushed down, out of stock, there were a lot of angry customers, tempers raised and threatning legal action. Further investigation revealed none in any stores at all. Boy there will be big trouble over this.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:49

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:49
ahh more pricks bait advertising.. thats nasty..
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Follow Up By: Bros 1 - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:34

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:34
truckster,
I am sure if you got in contact with the towel heads in Rays picture that you would get a far cheaper but probably more used product.
Cheers,
Bros.
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:42

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:42
With the money you save you can buy a small cotton reel to use as a snatch block. it will make it twice as easy to winch the Queen Mary then.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:14

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:14
I actually have a supplier of the said cotton reels.

I am also thinking about one of these instead of a hand winch



Thoughts?
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Reply By: Dave198 - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:35

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:35
I think I have got a left handed one with a 5 speed and transfer case still attached out in the shed somewhere, but you probably want a right handed one.
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:42

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 21:42
Seriously though I was eyeing of the 100s meters of expensive winch sized cable NPs threaded through the posts at poepell Corner car park and wondered how long it will be before it walks. Site Link
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony G (ACT) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 07:53

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 07:53
That stuff is no good for winching its Gal SWR, not ESFSWR.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 08:46

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 08:46
Oh OK Tony , then if someone does flog it they might have it wrapped around the ears, I didn't touch it or examine it , just looked at it and the thought passed my mind about what some are capable of.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony G (ACT) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:06

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:06
Plus the size of it, looks around 16-18mm, you would'nt get much on a winch.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:36

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:36
Tony I think maybe the way the photo was taken makes it look bigger but I think about the same size as what's on my XD9000 , then you stated it is Gal SWR , how can you say that if you have not been out there and seen it and felt it , It looked pretty damn good to me,
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony G (ACT) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:55

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:55
The first thought is the price difference between the two, they would install the cheaper. The second , from the photo (a very good one by the way) the finish is to shiney not to be Gal, and the third, having spent the best part of 21 years involved with standing and running rigging its does'nt appear to be ESFSWR more like FSWR, and Gal at that to last in the desert.

If you like it we know where it is when it goes missing ha.

So you might a educated guess, but I've been wrong before just carn't remember when.(tounge in cheek)
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 12:04

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 12:04
Hi Tony
Just been chatting with Don the Ranger down at Birdsville and he verified yes it is a cheapo and yep some did go missing some months ago and he said they replace it with shorter lengths,
Don't tongue in cheek to much mate You were RIGHT I was sorta wrong coz I'm not a cable expert
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Reply By: F4Phantom - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 22:09

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 22:09
hi, I have a a large disposable income and drive an x5. I want it to match my new leather pants. I think I need a winch. I really want everyone I drive past to think I am better than them, usually I do this by wearing more expensive shoes than them so I want a winch brand better than everyone else's. I will never go off road so I dont care about ability. Do I have to buy a warn winch, are they the best brand to have? If I buy a cheaper no-name winch will I loose my credibility as me-better-than-you?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 22:39

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 22:39
>> If I buy a cheaper no-name winch will I loose my credibility as me-better-than-you?

you have already lost it when you said you NEED a winch... You really only WANT one.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 04:21

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 04:21
To completely qualify as a leather pants wearing w@nker you should only buy a Hawse fairlead (one with lizard racing or similar logo etched on it should do), sikaflex, 2 foot of plasma rope and a hook.

Instructions
1. use sikaflex to attach a Hawse fairlead onto plastic bumper. If sikaflex is unavailable try gaffa tape

2. poke end of plasma rope through slot and if you've been able to stick fairlead over a useful hole tie on end to something handy like a bonnet catch support.

3. Tie hook on other end of rope with a double locked granny hitch knot.

4. Make sure you have hook positioned so it's highly visible and rope is firm.

5. For added W factor find a bit of red ribbon about 6" long and attach to hook. Nice clean ribbon as seen on some Hiluxes and other trucks with lift kits around town add to the "this has never and will never be used" look.

Don't forget to add a switch on the dash (one of those big red emergency stop switches should be obvious enough) so that when the other w@nkers - sorry - your mates ask what it's for you can tell them it's so you can disable the winch to stop someone cutting your car in half with it. Something you heard a mates cousins brother had done to his range rover but you haven't seen the pictures of.

Dave
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:21

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:21
The good thing about these cheaper winches is you only need to use AAA batteries instead of DD's !!!
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Reply By: lbudgie - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:28

Monday, May 08, 2006 at 23:28
Do a search. It’s been discussed before.
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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 07:45

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 07:45
Does it come with stickers ??
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Reply By: glenno(qld) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 08:33

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 08:33
I found this on ebay . Do you think it would be ok .

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Reply By: Michael B - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 08:50

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 08:50
Truckster,

I have found em!!!

My mates uncle did a google and tells me that he can get just what you want, and at the right price.

They are, of course, made for the o/s market and are most certainly LH thread, however they have been geared down...so he says, and I am sure that he would not tell any porkies.

One thing though, he says you should revisit the BATA SCHOOL LACES idea, just not strong enough, (can't vouch for it but I have been told, forget who by, that this model shoelace has a serious flaw and could disintegrate)

He suggests you use the 4.2 shoelace, much stronger.

Regards
Michael

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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:11

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:11
Did Truckster do a road test on the Bata School Laces las year ?
If not, how slack.
Vince
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 13:01

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 13:01
Sorry Vince, the suppliers wouldnt give us any for testing, even though we begged them numerous times.. Their loss due to not being in the previous tests...

Trackky dacks next
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Reply By: flappa - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:48

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 09:48
PLEASE dont feed the trolls.

I'm betting that if you look at the websites , the Originator of this thread is the distributor for both Bata Shoelaces , and Eggbeaters, I'm also betting he is the sole importer for reduction gears for the said Eggbeaters.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:11

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:11
the brand name is fartch....
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:44

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 10:44
flappa
i reckon he a tight ass
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 11:02

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 11:02
like the eye of a mozzies dick...
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 15:57

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 15:57
goodday truckie
only flaw in your plan i can see is a bit of rain in your area and your cardboard queen may fall to bits unless you have used a superior glue like the superior laces

steve
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 07:48

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 07:48
I have backed that bit of cardboard trailer into let the papermasche boat float off manytimes, are you sure my trailer wont work? the issue is with the dirt and twigs it rolls on more than the trailer or boat.
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 16:47

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 16:47
Problem solved truckster.....
egg beater is fine, all the above advice is fine too.....
problem is the Queen Mary, she's too boring....go the love boat instead....smaller and more sex appeal for all ur women.
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 17:17

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 17:17
Yeah. You'll find with these Chinese eBay models, the egg beater is assembled 90 degrees out for fitting to a standard ARB winch compatible bull bar making it difficult to operate the crank handle. Simply remove the 4 bolts and inner circlip, rotate 90' CW and hey presto......you have a Warn!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 07:49

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 07:49
I was going to mount it on some kitchen Tongs for light weight... but I like your idea
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 08:57

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 08:57
See some shockers in my line of work.

Came across a couple of grey nomad retirees the other day who were towing a 1937 48' Futney-Creech caravan around Oz. These are a lesser known Scottish built caravan, manufactured by the Messrs McGroaty & Poop Steamship Company constructed exclusively from cast iron with spruce and velvet interiors.

The tow vehicle was a 1977 Toyota Corona automatic with the optional hounds-tooth interior and mesh sunvisor.

To cut a long story short, as they were heading off to do the Canning, I noticed the driver's sheepskin 'Telethon seat belt snuggler' was not attached to his belt with rated bolts. He has simply used the velcro and wrapped it around the belt at shoulder height. Unbelievable!

Well, after telling him the error of his ways and giving him a right bollocking, the blokes in the workshop fixed this potential disaster with 6 x 8.8 grade 4" coach bolts screwed through an ali backing plate.

Some people.....pffftttt
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Reply By: mcgra (VIC) - Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 22:10

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 22:10
i think that one on ebay is over engineered for what truckster needs, as i got the impression he only wants it for the odd occassion when he really needs it most.

gra
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