Fitting of lpg for Patrol
Submitted: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 21:43
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peter
Hi,
Have finally decided to fit lpg to my GU Patrol,the system I am looking at is a MGA with a useable 92lt gas tank and having the 85lt fuel tank installed in place of the sub tank so I have a reasonable fuel range if required.
Anyone have experience with the MGA ( Mega Gas Australia )system or any other systems, all feed back welcomed and appreciated.
Regards
Peter.
Reply By: Rick (S.A.) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 00:04
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 00:04
No experience with gas, but interetsed in the 85 litre ULP tank in the place of the regular sub tank. I could use an extra 50 litres storage instead of jerry cans.
Any more details?
Thanks.
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Follow Up By: peter - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:30
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:30
I reckon these larger fuel tanks are available from 4x4 accessory dealers.
Have you a Patrol 4.5lt,what economy are you getting.
Regards
Peter.
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:56
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:56
Fully loaded with fuel, water & tucker; roof rack also loaded; over 3.5 tonnes; 100 kph; black top; using cruise control = 5 km/litre or 20 litres/100 km.
Slow 4 x 4 -ing; low range & into high range when possible; rocks, steep grades etc = 3.6 km/litre or 28 litres / 100km.
But the sums for me to swap over to diesel are getting worse - most recent (2005)calculation was 77,000 km to break even; that represents approx 5 years of useage. The old girl is nowadays no longer used for regular transport.
No point in doing all that just to break even, there has to be a positive benefit, so no action here, jackson.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Robin - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 11:40
Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 11:40
Rick Hi
Haven't seen any 85lt ulp tanks for my 4800 , some are called up to 82lt on diesel
and some 4500's but usually an actual 70-75lt.
Recently added the slightly smaller long
ranger rear tank to
mine at 145lt because this preserved the best clearance angles and got useable + 50lt.
This will still leave my options open to go to an around town only small gas tank in place of sub tank one day but I won't be hurrying there.
Friend who got 80lt brown davis gu diesel sub-tank at same time found that his extends 6cm below the chassis rails.
Not what I wanted
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 19:05
Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 19:05
Good point Robin, re clearance.
It's an area I do not want to comprimise in. Clearance is not currently an issue, so likely go to the 145 L replacement main tank. Thanks for the tip about the downside of a 80 L subtank - probably rules that brand out.
Before a 2 " lift, I ripped the bleep poor placcy bumber gear & lights off too many times. Hard to justify the Kaymar prices for a replacement rear bar - have looked at other brands, but it's still an exercise over $ 2 K, and that $ 2 K gets a lot of
miles under the belt.
Cheers
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Reply By: flappa - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 09:50
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 09:50
Sorry, no nothing of the MGA systems.
I'm looking at putting a Landi Injected system onto my patrol in the next few weeks.
I believe the Tantarini System is also a good system (apparently was the system fitted by the LPG assoc to a Patrol for tests.)
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Follow Up By: peter - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:34
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:34
Sounds interesting,what model patrol have you got,whats the price like for the two systems you have mentioned.
Regards
Peter.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 10:52
Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 10:52
I have a 4.5 Patrol. Landi is about $3500 fitted. Not sure on price on the other one.
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Reply By: Pilbara1 - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 10:45
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 10:45
Peter i know nothing of the MGA system that you are looking at but i do have a gas system installed in my 99GU 4.5. I have found that the fuel consumption and pricing/availability in remote areas is horrendous. So much so that i am now seriously looking at a vehicle change. Pricing in some road houses in WA has reached a dollar a litre (last week). I find this difficult to swallow as i use about 30-32 litres per 100km when towing my camper trailer at 100km/hr. I probably wouldn't mind the use so much if the price and availability was fair. I simply don't have the range in my vehicle to do some of the
treks i want to do.
Hope this helps out.
Cheers and cold beers.
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Follow Up By: peter - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:38
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:38
Thanks for the response,it is just a rip off what some
places are charging for gas,at present gas is available at
home here for 49cents per litre,so hopefully converting to gas will be easier on the pocket when running around.
Regards
Peter.
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Reply By: Gu_Patrol - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 18:10
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 18:10
Do you have a 4.5 litre or 4.8 litre Patrol it does make a differance on the 2 engines also it's best to speak to someone that already has them fitted, the old 4.2 litre are great after that I have heard negative stories about them. The other brand is Parnell, all gas fitters will tell you it's the only way to go, they'll blame something else if anything goes wrong.
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Follow Up By: peter - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:44
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:44
Hi,I have the 4.5lt GU,I have heard the 4.5 is OK but you need to adjust tappet clearance every 10,000km service and change you coolant every year.
This stops valve recession and changing the coolant helps prevents hot spots.
What have you heard about the 4.5 on gas.
Regards
Peter.
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Follow Up By: Gu_Patrol - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:41
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:41
Just a couple things a while back i was looking at buying a GU with 4.5 but was steered away, One could have been the when it backfires it blows the "thing a ma jig" I did speak to a few Gas fitters about it, They say the 4.8 can't have the same system as the 4.5 I can't remember the answer for that one, The parnell was better in the 4.8 litre, it could have something to do with the fuel injectors.
If your happy with yours then thats good,
I never had problems with my old 4.2 carby model on gas.
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:02
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:02
The 4.5 engine is perfect for gas. Much better than the 4.2 carby model like I have.(not that i have probs)
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Reply By: gqpat - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:08
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:08
Hi Peter never heard of the MGA system your better off sticking with a known gas system. If you dont want any troubles with tuning fit a IMPCO system with an APA tank if you drive it hard ask for a 425 mixer or a 225 if you dont ,or if its a 4.8 ltr get the 425 either way the 4.5 engine is excellent on gas propobly the best engine to fit lpg. Not sure where your located but if in
Melbourne try Lakeside Automotive they are LPG and IMPCO experts 039460 5630 even if you had to travel 6 hrs to get there i guarantee it would be worth the trip as they do a fantasic job.
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