MTR's or Cooper STT armour?

Submitted: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:17
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went to order a set of goodyear MTR's today 265/75 16" at $270 ea but then got confused with perhaps getting Cooper STT armour same size for $295.
1/ am i heading for right size?
2/ will i get this size tyre readily in remote area's?
3/ which one is more durable in gibber? i didnt consider coopers as had bad run with ST's
4/ which ones are more staking resistant?
5/ the coopers have 200kg per tyre greater load capacity as well as higher speed rating, is this of any importance?
6/ are these prices ok?
7/ thank you all for assistance with my tyre questions thus far and i promise to give it a rest soon.
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:32

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:32
1) What car does it goes on to/what is current size tyres are you running?
2) Yes, but depends how remote/Need to carry two spares.
3) they should be about the same, but Mtr's sidewall is tuffer vs STT
4) MTR :)
5) Probably not. Coopers would wear quicker because of the soft compound rubber...
6) Yes

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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:52

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 20:52
You forgot to answer question 7 Stan
7) No problem.
I'll do it for you.

Go for the MTR's. Spoke to Dave at Mount Dare when we were out there and he said he had a shed full of that size but none in the new prado size. Lucky I downgraded to 16's.
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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:10

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:10
thanks stan
dumb to not put vehical
old 61 seris wagon
so sounds like 2 for the MTR's
running 31 x 10.5 15" cooper ST at present, love thenm in malle country and on road but no go on gibber

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 17:11

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 17:11
Okay; NOW I'm confused ol' mate!!!!!????? hahahaha (but it doesn't take too much to confuse me!!).

You said in the initial post that you were thinking of 265/75R16...........

But now that you've told us what size you're currently running, it seems to be 31 x 10.5 R15? Am I reading this right? If so, are you looking at getting a new set of wheels as well? Cos your 15" rims won't work too well with 265/75R16s....it could be a bit difficult to get the bead to seal....hehehe

Sorry if I'm sounding sarcastic. In any case......another vote here for the MTRs; I too had a bad experience with Cooper STs and when the dealer/wholesaler wouldn't assist me with the severe chipping I'd suffered, I simply took my business elsewhere; never to return.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 11:24

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 11:24
Hi Roachy
yes i am going to get rims too, as i want that bit more clearance over the 15" set up.
i was replying to stans question of "what am i currently running"?
i plan to keep me 15" and will use when doing fishing trips to coast etc on bitchy as seem more stable for towing boat etc when all loaded up.
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Reply By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:41

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 21:41
MTR's. Don't be fooled by the marketing hype.
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Reply By: Member - Peter A (VIC) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:22

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:22
GN,
I would go MTR as a mates Land Cruiser performed well on any surface as long as you are well prepared, tyres in top condition, correct tyre pressure and drive correctly you will have no problems.
I personally did not have either and my tyres were in top condition and did the above without a hassle, have a good trip mate

Peter A
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:41

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:41
You could also do yourself a favour & save about $400.00, look at Firestone RMTs around $175 each. I did thousands of Kms on gibber roads with them, no chipping or cracking. Also done heaps in the VIC high country, no problems at all.
I ruined a set of Cooper STs with one Outback trip.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 14:00

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 14:00
Shaker - what sort of mileage did you get out of the Firestone's?
Thanks from Moose
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:40

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:40
Moose, to be quite honest I am not sure what they will do in the way of mileage, I would guess around 70 - 80,000km. They have done a lot more kms already than my Cooper STs did, they have done it a lot easier with little or no chipping, unlike the STs.
Go & have look at them, they are quite impressive & made in New Zealand, the best news is of course, the price. After my experience with the STs, I will never pay that sort of money again for a trumped up brand name. They (Cooper) are treating Australians as if we are dummies, if you look at the list of top tyres in the USA, they don't rate a mention.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:58

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:58
Thanks Shaker
Made by Kiwis - didn't know they made tyes over there.
I didn't like old STs either however I am a fan of STTs. Have had a few sets now and have no complaints with them. But they are wasted on a vehicle that the wife drives during the week. So am after a less aggressive pattern.
Had a look at Firestones on-line and they seem to have a very limited range and none in the size I'm after. Will keep searching for that elusive "best" tyre.
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:56

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 22:56
I've done 45000kms on my MTRs and I reckon I'll get another 10000 out of them, just. Haven't been able to stake one yet and they've done everything asked of them without ant drama. There are one or two small chips in them which I don't consider a problem with the work they've done.
I'm just starting to look at new tyres and the MTRs will probably be first choice again although I like the look of the Mickeyy Thompson Radial Claws and a mate has had a great run with those on a 40 series SWB cruiser.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 23:01

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 23:01
MTRs
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Reply By: Exploder - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 23:29

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 23:29
I would say Cooper STT after reading Williams post.
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Reply By: Scoey (QLD) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 08:38

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 08:38
Go the MTR's. Shop around a bit more - you might get a better price than that but. I have "heard" of cheaper - never found cheaper myself tho'!

Cheers
Scoey
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Reply By: Member - G N (VIC) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 08:57

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 08:57
Thanks for all the imput, looks like the MTR's eh
i will let you know how they go after trip
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