Aftermarket Suspension LC 100 TD

Submitted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:47
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Very big question... as you face plenty of them if you are about to find the right equipment for you 4WD.

I am going to buy a LC 100 TD (IFS) soon and I intend to replace the suspension system and fit an aftermarket suspension. My 4WD should be able to handle 3600-3800 kg, which is rather heavy. I would also like to lift it up about 30-40mm. Before I go and ask the various shops, I would also like to hear your opinions on this. Here are my related questions:

1) Any positive or negative feedback on particular brands (no brand bashing, by experience only please)

2) How much is it going to cost me roughly. I was estimating 2500-3000 AUD incl. fitting of it. Will that be enough?

As usual, thank you very much,
Dirk
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:57

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 15:57
This one should ge you started... Don't forget to do the A-Arm fix as well.

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Follow Up By: Dirk 32 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 18:26

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 18:26
Thank you Stan,

I still keep wondering about the cost of the suspension change. Of course it varies between different types and brands... obviously.

May I ask, how much it cost for you with the suspension mentioned on lcool? Will I be OK with the estimated 2500-3000 (fitting inc)?

Thanks
Dirk
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Follow Up By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 20:31

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 20:31
Dirk,

Best to ask Darren directly darren at ats4x4 dot com for the cost. My car is Prado, so setup is a bit diffrent and it doesn't need the A-arm fix and Diff drop...

Stan
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 22:05

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 22:05
Dirk 32
See a Toyota Dealer about the A-Arm prior to doing anything. They have finally admitted it as a potential warranty claim and you will get it checked for nothing and maybe a new one for nothing if there is a problem

My research showed problems if you try to raise the IFS too much. I went for the ARB Old Man Emu option with new Torsion Bars and also Polyairs
Shock, Torsion Bars, Springs, Stone Guard for Shocks, A Frame Fix, Polyairs and lsabour All up $2,123

Shock will cost from $550 to $1300
Torsion Bars from $410 to $600
Springs from $280 to $350
Poly airs around $291
All above - plus fitting

TJM, Rancho and Tough Dog are the same
OME are made by Monroe
King Springs and Lovell are the same
Apparently Bilsteins Koni and Lovell are the best (but expensive)
Stay away from Foam Cell - Gas is best
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Follow Up By: ch00k555 - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 10:34

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 10:34
Hey Trekkie,
Where did you get the Polyairs from?
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Follow Up By: Dirk 32 - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 12:21

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 12:21
Thank you Trekkie,

for the very detailed information. Just what I was looking for. When I get into Melbourne I will have a look around.

But I guess you can never do enough research before you go for something.

Dirk
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 12:44

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 12:44
"King Springs and Lovell are the same"

Hmmm.....

Think not.......
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 01:24

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 01:24
ch00k555
From ARB. I had a set on my old springs and they advised they had seen problems fitting old Polyairs to new system so for $290 I thought I would also have new Polyairs. They did not need to fit new hose lines etc, so it may have been a little cheaper.
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 01:44

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 01:44
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Hi John - You could very well be correct, but I was told that Springs sold as Lovell and King Springs came out of the same factory. If you have a look at each Web Site their comments about manufacture are almost the same. They both use the same steel from OneSteel and their process etc are described as being what appears to be the same. Even the Australian Standards (ISO) appear the same.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 07:39

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 07:39
It's like comparing two winches made on the same chinese factory :)
They are not the same as they are made to the different specs...
Also quality is not the same as it used to be a couple of years ago, e.g.
you can't get the same Lovell springs as I currently got in my car and expect them
to perform as good........
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:53

Monday, May 15, 2006 at 08:53
Trekkie, Lovells are made in Newcastle.
Go to Lovells Springs and select "Facilities"

Kings are made on the Gold Coast.
lKing Springs
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 23:48

Monday, May 15, 2006 at 23:48
John
Thanks for that - it is intersting when you start doing research - I upgraded the suspension on my 100S late last year - Not sure who told me they came out of the same factory - I can now see they are different - Thanks
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 16:33

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 16:33
An LC100 owner last week told me do an aftermarket front differential too Dirk. I was with two members of the Riverland SA Four Wheel Drive Club three weeks back where they had both done front diffs - in training exercises.
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Reply By: dieseltojo - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 18:51

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 18:51
Dirk,I have had all the work done that you intend to do at ATS 4x4 as per the link that Stan gave,and their work is first class.I would not give out costs etc as there are many variables with what each person wants and the size of their budget.Suffice to say that I am 100% happy with all the work and will say that ATS is competitive with all other alternatives.In my opinion however they are well ahead of the field in expertise in many aspects of 4x4 fit outs.
Friends but no affiliations to this company etc etc.

Regards,Paul Klat.
Melbourne ,Vic,Australia.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 22:02

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 22:02
Ditto for my 100 Series - A couple of people trying to emulate what Darren does, but he does the complete package, even with 'try before you buy' options - worth an email..
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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 04:07

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 04:07
I'm another one who has had the complete ATS setup and very happy.
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Reply By: snailbait (Blue mntns) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:02

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:02
Dirk 32 asked for information on Aftermarket Suspension LC 100 TD
hi Dirk 32
Have a look at Pol air springs This is a after market air bag which fits in side the coil spring and can lift your vehicle up to add a futher 500 kg at 25 psi it is good for long distance touring
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Reply By: mkthomp - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:34

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 18:34
hi
another recent yesterday customer of Darrens . very happy with suspension job
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Reply By: Off-track - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 14:26

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 14:26
Can anyone give round figures to the ATS upgrade? It all sounds like everyone has been sworn to secrecy on the matter.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 20:03

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 20:03
I can tell you the figures for the Prado Premium package but have no idea what are the costs for the Cruiser. As I said before better to e-mail Darren directly.
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