Simpson crossing

Submitted: Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:19
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Ga'day all . Havent been on for some time so i through i'd drop a line and maybe get some info . The cook and i are off on a desart run in about 4 weeks . Anne Beadell is up first , then up to Dahhousie . Then it's across the Simpson , and this where i need some advice . There was to be 2 to 3 vehicles , butnow we are 1 . My question is , witch is the best and safest way to go west to east for one vehicle ? We may be able to hook up with others , but that's not always posable , so we must plan the trip and expect to be on our own . I will say that we are not new to 4x4ing, but when going somwhere new its good to get advice from people who have been , dun that . Thanks in advance . Errol & Jan
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:38

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:38
Read willem's recent posts about simpson conditions, very dry and extremely soft.
Unless it rains soon this years travellers will be doing it pretty hard due to soft conditions.
A lone vehicle would be well advised to stick to the more frequently travelled routes in case of problems.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:48

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:48
Good points Peter. Any previous experience in recently wet sand is totally different to the very soft sand Willie spoke of.
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Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:39

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:39
We did the same trip 2 years ago (2 vehicles) I dont think you will have any problems if you take it easy, but you know that. We were towing trailers, so decided not to do the French line. We did half of the WAA line and that was testing on the vehicles and trailers, so decided to finish on the Rig Road. Probably will take longer, but just as enjoyable. PS there have been a lot of posts in the past month about the Simpson (Ruth @ Birdsville and others) if you do a search you can see them. Wish I could take some time off - I would go with you
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:58

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 21:58
Hi Errol

A single vehicle crossing should be OK but make sure you have a good shovel!!!! and good comms

Read my post 33778 for updated info.

BTW Even the Rig Road has some tricky dunes this year.

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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 22:39

Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 22:39
G'Day mate,,

West to East is the easier direction...
If you stay on the French Line,, it is like the main road from Dalhousie to Birdsville...Up and down... Up and down.... Up and down...
We slipped down to the Rig Road and drove the main leg of that but there are quite a few steep dunes,,,, not so much high,, but some are like walls...
Takes a well thought out crack at it to crest on the first go,,,,, not so much dangerous but more like fun...
We went through there in June peak season and didnt pass a sole until we got back to the K1 - QAA Line...4 days from memory...
So comms is important down there...More fun than sticking to the French Line....
I would go Rig Road.....
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Follow Up By: disco_cox - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 21:50

Monday, May 15, 2006 at 21:50
Voxson,
My wife and I are travelling solo across the simpson then making our way up to cape york etc.
We are leaving from Adelaide around the same time, would love to hear your plans and see if we can make a trip of it??
disco_cox
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 23:01

Monday, May 15, 2006 at 23:01
G'day Disco_cox....
Well,, our trip is pretty simple,,,,Leaving Caltex servo at Bolivar at 4.30am Sat 17th June.... We wanna get 100kms past Coober Pedy heading towards Oodnadatta to our favourite campsite.... Then every day after that will be a sane time of leaving,,,, then going across the Simpson and then up through Hughendon etc,, Lakefield,,, OTL,, Chilli Beach,,, Tip,,, Goldfields, Palmerville,,, across to Kowanyama,, Karumba,, Fishing where we can,,, Burketown etc etc,,, Hells Gate,, down to Kingfisher,,, Lawnhill,,, Mt Isa,,, Birdsville,,, Home...
Great to make a trip of it....If you want make contact...0412 623142...83961717....
In my car Jason and myself,,,both 40ish,,, In Navara couple of 55yr old blokes,,,, In triton we are picking up near Cairns,,, Bloke and his wife 35ish....
We are not loud music all night people,,, prob have some quiet drinks around campfire and in bed by 10ish or so most nights...
As you can probably see we have interest of someone else on this post who is similar to our Navara campers....After the desert i think they are turning off...
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Follow Up By: fnq triton - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:54

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 20:54
thanks grant, 35ish. i'm 25 and the navigator is 24. but that doesn't matter, the more the merrier i reckon. i wish i could start with you guys down there.
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 07:32

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 07:32
You can... Just come down now....
EASY!!!!!......
Forget about work....
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Reply By: LeeT - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 11:28

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 11:28
Hi Errol,
We just completed a trip from Birdsville to Dalhousie. Left Birdsville 3/5/06 and camped at Dalhousie 6/5/06. We had three vehicles, so we travelled via French, The Knolls Track and then the WAA line. Although East to West is said to be harder, we didn't think so. The French line is hard work and not very pleasant. The WAA line is a little easier and more interesting however I wouldn't travel it alone, although we saw one vehicle that was travelling alone (we had to pull them off a dune top).
The safest would be the Rig Road then you could travel up the Knolls Track to the French Line for the relatively short distance to Poepels Corner.
We had a Prado 4.5l petrol and used 127 litres between Birdsville and Oodnadatta.
The desert had had a little rain and was quite green. The sand on the French line was soft and badly rutted, the WAA line sand was a lot firmer.
Regards
Lee
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Reply By: TUF80 - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 20:38

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 20:38
HI ERROL I TO AM LOOKING AT CROSSING THE DESERT IN JUNE AROUND 15-18 LEAVING FROM ALICE AFTER THE FINKE DESERT RACE WILL BE TOWING A TRAILER AND ONLY BEING ONE UP LOOKING AT TAKING 3-4 DAYS TO DO IT .LAST TIME I DID IT WAS IN 03
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 21:18

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 21:18
Ga'day Tuf 80 , Interested , sure . We will be leaving home on the 10th ,June . It will take about 5 or 6 days to cover the Anne Beadell to Coober Pedy , with a rest day there , then drive up to Dalhousie . We planed to have a couple of days there as the cook liks the hot springs , so i through i'd better give her a chance to enjoy them . So , i'd say we won't be leaving Dalhousie untill the 20th to 22nd . Don't know if this sutes you , but that's rough'y our plan's . If these date's are ok with you , let me know and we mite make direct contact . Everything i'm reading and hearing is telling me to go the Rig Rd , witch way were you thinking of going ? Cheers . Errol
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 21:38

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 21:38
Gday,,,

Are you the same Errol (Peter) which i resized a photo for ages ago and you sent me a hanging feature which i have hanging in my hallway??

Any way,, we will be in Dalhousie around the 20th and thinking of going the rig road,,,,, would be good if a few of us hooked up....
After that we are off to Northern Qld,, Cape York etc etc...
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Friday, May 12, 2006 at 21:59

Friday, May 12, 2006 at 21:59
Could Be . What was the hanging feature ? Was it from Peter or me ? If you are going to be in Dalhousie around the 20th , then it could be a good idea for us to hook up togeather , and maybe a few more as well . land line is 0896412409 . Errol
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 00:26

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 00:26
I rekon it was from Peter...
It is a plaque which says "I love the country"......
I will check out and confirm our plans then i will ring you.....
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 11:56

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 11:56
Definitely form Peter . Ring after 4.30 as i don't get home till then . Hope we can set this up . Cheers Errol PS Peter and i are mates and we get out about once a month.
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:29

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:29
We are finalising tomorrow... What time is good to ring you after 3pm?
It looks like we will be in Dalhousie about 2 - 3pm on Sunday 18th June..
Is this too early for you?
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:52

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:52
After 3pm on Sunday will be fine . Not sure when we will arive at Dalhousie . It depends on how long it takes to cross the Anne Beadell . I think the 18th to 20th through . Anyway , when you ring we can talk about it . Errol
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:56

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:56
PS . It mite be better to meet in Coober Pedy . I see you have VKS , so we will be able to keep in touch to monitor our progress . Errol
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 22:55

Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 22:55
We will be passing through Coober Pedy on Sat 17th at approx 3pm....
Talk to you tomorrow on phone...
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Reply By: TUF80 - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 21:59

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 21:59
G'DAY ERROL & JAN SORRY I HAVE BEEN SO SLOW GETTING BACK TO YOU BUSY GETTING READY TO GO PREP CAR & BIKE . WILL BE ARRIVING AT DALHOUSIE AROUND 17 -18 PUSHING ON IN A COUPLER DAYS ACROSS THE DESERTTO BIRDSVILLE THEN DOWN THRU WALKERS CROSSING .WILL BE INTERESTED IN EITHER ROUTE ACROSS THE DESERT. REGARDS GLENN MEL & CALEB
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:25

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 22:25
Ga'day Glenn, Mel & Caleb . We are meeting up with Voxen at Cobby Pedy on the 20th then coming up to Dalhousie. From what i have been told , you mite not like to swim at Dal as there are surposed to be mites in the water , so i would check befor you swim . I would say we will be there on the 21st , and if its true about the mites , then we will have a look around , stay overnight , then move on I think . If you have VKS you may be able to track our progress across the anne beadell . Cheers Errol
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 07:44

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 07:44
G'Day Errol,,, It was actually the 17th (Sat),, in Coober Pedy as my post says above...
We have had a minor change since then,,, as from last night we are going through Dalhousie and missing Coober Pedy all together...
We will be going through Dalhousie about lunchtime on 18th (Sun)....
Does that work for anyone?....
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 05:50

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 05:50
That gives us 7 days to get there , should be ok . Take a look at TUF80 's post , the one above , thay will be there at the same time . Don't know why i said the 20th , it should only take us about 5 days to cross the Anne Beadell , then a day in Cobber to do washing ectra , then up to Dal and meet you all there . Cheers Errol
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Follow Up By: TUF80 - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 21:39

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 21:39
G'DAY ERROL,JAN & VOXSON HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE MITES WILL BE IN DALHOUSIE ON THE WAY UP TO ALICE AROUND THE 30 -31 MAY WILL SUS OUT THE LITTLE BUGGERS.DONT HAVE VKS SO I CANT TRACK UR MOVES ONLY MOBILE NO 0411573089 . STILL WILL BE AT DALHOUSIE 17 18 JUNE ON THE RETURN LEG....CHEERS GLENN
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 21:46

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 21:46
Yep Dalhousie for us at around lunchtime on Sunday the 18th June 2006...
We will be on channel 14 till we get into the desert and then we will be on channel 10....
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Follow Up By: TUF80 - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 22:37

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 22:37
HOWDY VOXSON WILL LEAVE UHF ON CHANNEL 14 WILL SEE U THERE .. REGARDS GLENN
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 22:44

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 22:44
Ga'Day you bloks' Don't know where i was getting the 20th from . Will see you there 17th or 18th . Errol
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 00:07

Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 00:07
No probs.. See you guys in Dalhousie or Oodnadatta even,,, wherever our paths may cross...
I will give you a selcall Errol, so if you keep your hf on scan on the day of the 18th you should prob pick it up on 3meg as that is the frequency i will send it on being that we will be of close distance and it will be daytime....

And GLENN,, channel 14 is good,, i will prob even leave you a message at Pink Roadhouse or visa versa just so we know where we are at on the day...
Will you be coming through Oodnadatta?...
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Follow Up By: TUF80 - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 22:10

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 22:10
G"DAY VOXSON WILL BE COMING DOWN THRU FINKE ,MT DARE INTO DAL SO NO MESSAGE WILL BE LEFT AT THE PINK ROAD HOUSE .TAKING OFF THIS SATURDAY NO LONGER ACCESS TO EXPLOROZ SEE YOU GUY AT DAL. REGARDS GLENN
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 07:32

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 07:32
Sounds like a plan.....
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