HID Upgrade kits

Don't look at the postage and handling Footie look at the overall price. It's common on ebay to let goods go a bit cheap and crank up the p&p. It makes the sellers fees cheaper.

Why is it that when i look at a photo all i get is a grey square? It happens quite regulary but everyone else seems to see it?? Any ideas? THANKS

what browser marn?

Footy, Ray has hit it.. look at the SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHT GLOBES..
they sell for $0.01cent! they have to make money somewhere.

I'd be happy with $30, if they were worth the effort.

As far as the price goes, yes that's just one of the tricks of the trade. A handling charge ? Common but not warrented in my experience.
Getting your mates to bid is another way of pushing the final bid up.
Buying a stack of inexpensive things is an easy way of getting your ratings up.

Oh yes, sadly I'm aware of how it's done.

Just your standard internet explorer on the work putas

Marn, they will be blocked on the firewall.. they are at my work too.
You will find Photobucket, and other sites similar are blocked.

Theres a bloke BUSHY555 on outerlimits selling kits to upgrade XGT's to full blown HID's.

The guys at ORE recon their standard "Nane" brand spotties are awesome when fitted with HID, so globe placement doesn't appear to be an issue.

I think there is legal issues with fitting HID to normal low beam headlights that were not designed for it.

Rest assured globes placement relative to reflector as well as reflector diameter and depth has "everything" to do with it. If you ain't got that right you ain't got no lights mate. That's why all the cheap, small lamps that look pretty including all the rectangular ones are c-r-a-p and at best their only use in life might be poor quality reverse lamps. I suppose ORE and other suppliers would say they are awsome since their living is earned by selling such products. They probably would be better than the standard Nane brand spotties (which wouldn't be hard) but the jury is still out whether they perform anywhere near a HID lamp that was designed from the ground up to be a HID lamp (including the globe). Re the legal issues on HID headlamp conversions that is why I mentioned "see the ADR's".

Yup, plenty of em, but wanna know if anyone has one!

Waiting for Roachie to pop up, hes bound to have em. if not he can buy one and I'll test for him

Its uncanny. I was on that very page, thinking about trying some. When I came back to EO, here you are talking about them !!!

Yes, I have also heard about some globes being a different length and changing the characteristics of the lights. Also, on the Hella web site, it states that any globe not made to ADR specs may cause damage to plastic lenses.

Wether HID does the same, who knows? FIIK!!!!

Tonight on the way home from dinner I was dazzled by three cars, all cruising thru the car park, and all had what appeared to be HID lights. One was an older style falcon, one a VL krumbledoor and one I couldn't distinguish but fairly new.

All three were very bright and quite uncomfortable to look at.

They state on their site that a 55 watt lamp consistantly draws 10 amps but by my calculations 55/12 equals about 4.6 amps. Only .6 of an amp more than their system. Is something funny going on here??

But the inverter/transformer would have losses as the globes run at a very high voltage to maintain the arc.

Trucky,

I reckon these might be the type that Lucy has. With a Patrol of any sort, you'd have to get the Hi-Low bulbs; whereas if you've got a vehicle with separate lights for Hi-Low beam (like Pesty's old 60 series and some 80 series) you'd be able to get away with the single beam jobbies.

Somebody else already commented that "technically" it's illegal to have HIDs unless they were fitted as standard equipment......like he said. I put that in the same category as the other laws that I know I've broken......(eg: removal of swaybars, gauges on top of dashboard, Lightforce 240s sitting on top of b/bar, truck exceeds GVM with no engineers certificate, 4 to 5 inch suspension lift etc etc)

As I've said in another reply somewhere recently, I lashed out and went for the XenonOz HID kit for about $1,500-...........I'm happy!!!!!!!!!!!!

How acceptable were the standard lights do you think Roachie?

And did the 240's affect engine temps on yours?

Standard GU lights are crap IMHO. This is especially evident when you've got a good set of driving lights like the 240 Blitz.......... you dip down to low beam for oncoming traffic and are plunged into virtual darkness with the standard low-beam.

The new HID's do away with that problem. I get the occasional oncoming car that flicks me even when I'm on low beam (cos they think I'm on high), but as soon as they get a blink of the HID high beam plus the 2 x 240s, they soon mind their manners.

The 240s now wear a pair of those poophy-looking light blue covers. The reason is that with the normal clear covers, the light they emit is a definite YELLOW against the HID's pure white. The blue covers largely overcome the yellow-ness and make the 240's light appear much closer to the HID's white.

I've tried the 240's in the "proper" position (in front of the radiator) and have moved them to the top bar of the bullbar (where they are at the moment). My over-warming issues are well documented, but it is difficult to say whether moving them up about a foot, has been the cure-all. The only way you could know this for sure would be to remove them from in front of the radiator actually during a trip when the temp gauge was getting a bit too high, and see if the temp dropped immediately and noticeably. Even then, the answer would not be definite cos there are soooo many other factors that come into play. The water temp goes up when you go up a steep hill etc.

Having them on top of the top bar (using the 2 lugs that ARB supply for mounting aerials) does not impede my forward vision as far as I'm concerned. The only time this is untrue is when I'm crawling at very slow pace through a rough rock-strewn creek bed etc, cos they sometimes get in the way of seeing some obstacles. However, with the long/high bonnet of a GU, you can't see much in that regard anyway.

Roachie, LMAO.....I've heard truck drivers, 100 series cuiser owners and F350 owners complain that when they dip the Lightforce 240's they feel like no lights are on at all until the eyes adjust.

If you think the lights on a GU are crap, jump into one of your old forby's and see what happens when you dip the 240's. te he

Are you ever satisfied ? HAHAHAHA

Roachie,

Are your's the hi/low HID kit?

Leory

G'day Leroy,

Yes mate, mine are the Hi-Low kit from Xenonoz. At the time, I was of the understanding that these were as scarce as rocking-horse poop.......plenty of places making/selling HIDs with single beam for under $1000-.

Now it seems blokes like Lucy have bought ones similar to mine for well under that figure!!!

Low beam is VERY GOOD....high beam is okay; I still use the Lightforce 240's with high beam and all is good.

There is a guy on the central coast selling them for $350single and $495hi/lo.

Had quite a good chat to him about hid.
You should not switch them on and off rapidly. Deteriorates the lamps. The hi/lo lamps are moving bulb types which do not have the problem of hot re-strike as the lamp does not turn off when going to hi beam.
Most hid kits these days actually have a hot re-strike function anyway which means you can turn them off and on again no problems.

ooops. Link is here.
www.hidtechnologies.com.au

This guy is one of many. Looks good.

The guy's at XenonOz are getting a battering from all these cheapies. I wonder how long they will keep the attitude that they have at the moment.

you will be suprised muzz, some will hold ground until they go under.

the thing is, some people DONT shop round, they find one place with things, and buy em there and then.

you can keep your original bulbs in the glove box just incase something happens you popem back in.

Leroy

so how much better?

30%? Doubt it.

Wait and see........TBA

May still go the 4 x 130W IPF's on the roof, seppo looking or not, as they are free and just gathereing dust at the moment.

You are not seppo.. You are there for not allowed to do this....

Im as close as we get, so send em over :P

Well, tried the 130W Bosch H1's out last night side by side with a mate's Lightforce 240's. Very impressive. The Hella's were brighter and the upgrade cost me all of $19.

I'm going to run some serious wiring straight to the bulbs (some poxy plug system on the Hella's) on the weekend and use a direct earth to the neg terminal of the battery.

How they last? Only time will tell. The do get ferkin hot but I reckon the steel construction of the 4000's will provide good heat sink properties.