HID Upgrade kits

Submitted: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 22:55
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Anyone running one of these?



SUPER VISION HID CONVERSION KIT
6500k Pure White

12 Months Full Replacement Warranty

Available for H1, H3, H4(Single beam), H7, 9005 and 9006
Please specify which Bulb Type you require upon purchase
Easy Installation

You Get all the necessary hardware and accessories to convert to HID

One Kit Contains:

2 Xenon HID Capsules
2 Ignitors
2 Ballasts
2 Ballast Power Lines (heavy duty wiring harness)
2 Wiring Looms
11 Cable Ties
2 Piano Wires (for System 1 & System 2)
2 HID Capsule Connector Converters (Relay Kit for System 4)
1 Spare Fuse (15A)
1 Installation Instructions (English)
12 Months Warranty

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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:06

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:06
Postage and handling $30 ? I don't think so !
Sorry, nothing to do with the kit. I'd love to see a decent unbiased report on something like this. Can't see how it could be done but I'd like to see it anyway :)
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:13

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:13
Don't look at the postage and handling Footie look at the overall price. It's common on ebay to let goods go a bit cheap and crank up the p&p. It makes the sellers fees cheaper.
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Follow Up By: Marn - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:18

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:18
Why is it that when i look at a photo all i get is a grey square? It happens quite regulary but everyone else seems to see it?? Any ideas? THANKS
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:27

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:27
what browser marn?

Footy, Ray has hit it.. look at the SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHT GLOBES..
they sell for $0.01cent! they have to make money somewhere.

I'd be happy with $30, if they were worth the effort.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:32

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:32
As far as the price goes, yes that's just one of the tricks of the trade. A handling charge ? Common but not warrented in my experience.
Getting your mates to bid is another way of pushing the final bid up.
Buying a stack of inexpensive things is an easy way of getting your ratings up.

Oh yes, sadly I'm aware of how it's done.
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Follow Up By: Marn - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 01:06

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 01:06
Just your standard internet explorer on the work putas
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 17:24

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 17:24
Marn, they will be blocked on the firewall.. they are at my work too.
You will find Photobucket, and other sites similar are blocked.
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Reply By: blown4by - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:46

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:46
Haven't tried them but have looked at them. Another mob, Aura, reckon you can convert your Rallye 4000's to perform as well as Predator's ??? for about $600.00 but that remains to be seen. No pun intended. I would be concerned that since the reflectors are not actually designed to operate with the HID globes are they positioned in the exact correct location relative to the reflector because this is critical for optimum lamp performance. Also be aware that ADR's specify that with HID headlamps self-levelling and inbuilt headlamp cleaning is mandatory. This is due to them being so powerful that a boot load of gear will cause them to dazzle on-coming drivers and sand, grit , etc on the lens can cause refraction of light to the extent that on-coming drivers can experience discomfort. You won't find a vehicle with factory HID lamps that don't have those two features. Eg BMW, M-B, Landing Rovers, Lexus, etc
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:54

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 23:54
Theres a bloke BUSHY555 on outerlimits selling kits to upgrade XGT's to full blown HID's.
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 00:26

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 00:26
The guys at ORE recon their standard "Nane" brand spotties are awesome when fitted with HID, so globe placement doesn't appear to be an issue.

I think there is legal issues with fitting HID to normal low beam headlights that were not designed for it.
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Follow Up By: blown4by - Saturday, May 20, 2006 at 12:52

Saturday, May 20, 2006 at 12:52
Rest assured globes placement relative to reflector as well as reflector diameter and depth has "everything" to do with it. If you ain't got that right you ain't got no lights mate. That's why all the cheap, small lamps that look pretty including all the rectangular ones are c-r-a-p and at best their only use in life might be poor quality reverse lamps. I suppose ORE and other suppliers would say they are awsome since their living is earned by selling such products. They probably would be better than the standard Nane brand spotties (which wouldn't be hard) but the jury is still out whether they perform anywhere near a HID lamp that was designed from the ground up to be a HID lamp (including the globe). Re the legal issues on HID headlamp conversions that is why I mentioned "see the ADR's".
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:09

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:09
A bit further along that page there is a H4 (hi/low) kit for $319.97
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:11

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:11
Yup, plenty of em, but wanna know if anyone has one!

Waiting for Roachie to pop up, hes bound to have em. if not he can buy one and I'll test for him
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:29

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 00:29
Its uncanny. I was on that very page, thinking about trying some. When I came back to EO, here you are talking about them !!!

Yes, I have also heard about some globes being a different length and changing the characteristics of the lights. Also, on the Hella web site, it states that any globe not made to ADR specs may cause damage to plastic lenses.

Wether HID does the same, who knows? FIIK!!!!

Tonight on the way home from dinner I was dazzled by three cars, all cruising thru the car park, and all had what appeared to be HID lights. One was an older style falcon, one a VL krumbledoor and one I couldn't distinguish but fairly new.

All three were very bright and quite uncomfortable to look at.
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Follow Up By: Marn - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 04:52

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 04:52
They state on their site that a 55 watt lamp consistantly draws 10 amps but by my calculations 55/12 equals about 4.6 amps. Only .6 of an amp more than their system. Is something funny going on here??
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 08:13

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 08:13
But the inverter/transformer would have losses as the globes run at a very high voltage to maintain the arc.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 08:14

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 08:14
Trucky,

I reckon these might be the type that Lucy has. With a Patrol of any sort, you'd have to get the Hi-Low bulbs; whereas if you've got a vehicle with separate lights for Hi-Low beam (like Pesty's old 60 series and some 80 series) you'd be able to get away with the single beam jobbies.

Somebody else already commented that "technically" it's illegal to have HIDs unless they were fitted as standard equipment......like he said. I put that in the same category as the other laws that I know I've broken......(eg: removal of swaybars, gauges on top of dashboard, Lightforce 240s sitting on top of b/bar, truck exceeds GVM with no engineers certificate, 4 to 5 inch suspension lift etc etc)

As I've said in another reply somewhere recently, I lashed out and went for the XenonOz HID kit for about $1,500-...........I'm happy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 09:53

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 09:53
How acceptable were the standard lights do you think Roachie?

And did the 240's affect engine temps on yours?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 10:07

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 10:07
Standard GU lights are crap IMHO. This is especially evident when you've got a good set of driving lights like the 240 Blitz.......... you dip down to low beam for oncoming traffic and are plunged into virtual darkness with the standard low-beam.

The new HID's do away with that problem. I get the occasional oncoming car that flicks me even when I'm on low beam (cos they think I'm on high), but as soon as they get a blink of the HID high beam plus the 2 x 240s, they soon mind their manners.

The 240s now wear a pair of those poophy-looking light blue covers. The reason is that with the normal clear covers, the light they emit is a definite YELLOW against the HID's pure white. The blue covers largely overcome the yellow-ness and make the 240's light appear much closer to the HID's white.

I've tried the 240's in the "proper" position (in front of the radiator) and have moved them to the top bar of the bullbar (where they are at the moment). My over-warming issues are well documented, but it is difficult to say whether moving them up about a foot, has been the cure-all. The only way you could know this for sure would be to remove them from in front of the radiator actually during a trip when the temp gauge was getting a bit too high, and see if the temp dropped immediately and noticeably. Even then, the answer would not be definite cos there are soooo many other factors that come into play. The water temp goes up when you go up a steep hill etc.

Having them on top of the top bar (using the 2 lugs that ARB supply for mounting aerials) does not impede my forward vision as far as I'm concerned. The only time this is untrue is when I'm crawling at very slow pace through a rough rock-strewn creek bed etc, cos they sometimes get in the way of seeing some obstacles. However, with the long/high bonnet of a GU, you can't see much in that regard anyway.

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Follow Up By: muzzimbidgie - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 11:26

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 11:26
Roachie, LMAO.....I've heard truck drivers, 100 series cuiser owners and F350 owners complain that when they dip the Lightforce 240's they feel like no lights are on at all until the eyes adjust.

If you think the lights on a GU are crap, jump into one of your old forby's and see what happens when you dip the 240's. te he

Are you ever satisfied ? HAHAHAHA
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 19:28

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 19:28
Roachie,

Are your's the hi/low HID kit?

Leory

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 09:29

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 09:29
G'day Leroy,

Yes mate, mine are the Hi-Low kit from Xenonoz. At the time, I was of the understanding that these were as scarce as rocking-horse poop.......plenty of places making/selling HIDs with single beam for under $1000-.

Now it seems blokes like Lucy have bought ones similar to mine for well under that figure!!!

Low beam is VERY GOOD....high beam is okay; I still use the Lightforce 240's with high beam and all is good.
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 10:01

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 10:01
How much are the kits?

How do these go with switching on and off rapidly? If they're an arc, wouldn't they run into 'hot strike' issues?
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Follow Up By: nightdude - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 15:24

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 15:24
There is a guy on the central coast selling them for $350single and $495hi/lo.

Had quite a good chat to him about hid.
You should not switch them on and off rapidly. Deteriorates the lamps. The hi/lo lamps are moving bulb types which do not have the problem of hot re-strike as the lamp does not turn off when going to hi beam.
Most hid kits these days actually have a hot re-strike function anyway which means you can turn them off and on again no problems.

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Follow Up By: nightdude - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 15:25

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 15:25
ooops. Link is here.
www.hidtechnologies.com.au
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Follow Up By: muzzimbidgie - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 23:50

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 23:50
This guy is one of many. Looks good.

The guy's at XenonOz are getting a battering from all these cheapies. I wonder how long they will keep the attitude that they have at the moment.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 17:22

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 17:22
you will be suprised muzz, some will hold ground until they go under.

the thing is, some people DONT shop round, they find one place with things, and buy em there and then.
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Reply By: Harrow - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 17:48

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 17:48
Hi Truckster

I upgraded my Cibie Spotlights (H1 bulb, therefore easy as no high/low beam issues) with HID's without any probs except for 1.

Has bugged be for 2 years but I believe now have it sorted.

In short RF emmisssions from the HID lights when 1st ignighted was feeding back through my CB Radio aerial and blowing up my UHF radio.

Happened twice, knew it was feedback from the HID's as CB radios and a cheapo electronic compass/battery monitor would go ballistic as I switched the HID's on.

With these acessories powered by an 12v battery isolated from the veh electrics Sitting on the passenger seat and radios totally isolated from the vehicle (+ and- , disconnected , but not Aerial the feedback still happened.

Then disconnect the aerial from the back of the radio the problem went away (aerial shielding is earthed)

After wrapping all wiring and boxes associated with the HIDs, the problem has mostly gone away, (95% if loghts on = no feedback)

So Make sure the HID's are either CE Markes or somilar standard and properly shielded !!!!

otherwise HID's rock

Good Luck

Harrow
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 20:32

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 20:32
evening all
with ballasts and igniters theres to much to go wrong especially with murphys law they will conk out out bush i have enough problems with this stuff on 240v without trying 12 v its wonder they are not selling an invertor with them to make them 240vlololol

steve
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 12:01

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 12:01
you can keep your original bulbs in the glove box just incase something happens you popem back in.

Leroy
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 07:02

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 07:02
Just fitted two Bosch 130W H1 globes into my Hella 4000's. Cost the grand total of $19 for both from Coventrys at trade price. Conversion time with 3mm hex in cordless drill was 10 minutes including a bit of a clean up of mud and roasted bugs.

Put the old 100W'ers in the glove box as a backup.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 17:21

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 17:21
so how much better?
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 19:16

Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 19:16
30%? Doubt it.

Wait and see........TBA

May still go the 4 x 130W IPF's on the roof, seppo looking or not, as they are free and just gathereing dust at the moment.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 09:42

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 09:42
You are not seppo.. You are there for not allowed to do this....

Im as close as we get, so send em over :P
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 19:25

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 19:25
Well, tried the 130W Bosch H1's out last night side by side with a mate's Lightforce 240's. Very impressive. The Hella's were brighter and the upgrade cost me all of $19.

I'm going to run some serious wiring straight to the bulbs (some poxy plug system on the Hella's) on the weekend and use a direct earth to the neg terminal of the battery.

How they last? Only time will tell. The do get ferkin hot but I reckon the steel construction of the 4000's will provide good heat sink properties.
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Reply By: Taize - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 16:45

Friday, May 19, 2006 at 16:45
The major difference between the cheap HID kits ($5-600) and the expensive (+$1000) kits is where the ballasts are make. The cheapies are made in China whereas the expensive ones come from Europe. I've heard stories of the cheap ones fading over time
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