Brown Davis Tanks Leaking
Submitted: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:07
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Bob
This could be a coincidence or it could be something worse.
I just had a Brown Davis long range tank fitted and it leaks near the drain plug.
Phoned a mate to tell him, he also had the same model tank fitted 2 weeks ago, leaking from the same area.
It is not the drain plug itself, seems to be porous welding around the area.
Anyone else having similar problems?
Regards
Bob
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:17
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:17
What did Brown Davis say about it?
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Follow Up By: Bob - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:23
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:23
I only found my leak tonight so no discussions with BD yet.
Mate rang BD on Friday last, more or less got abused for inferring that a BD tank could be faulty.
He has had tank repaired himself on Monday and sending BD the bill.
See what happens.
Seems that they are difficult to deal with.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:32
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:32
It wasn't a good to have it repaired by someone else, as they will now be under obligation, other than moral, to pay the bill!
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:54
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 17:54
Sorry to say Bob, split and leaking welds are common on BD tanks.
And the attitude from the manufacturer you have experienced is also common.
Your lucky you found the problem now and not in the middle of the Canning.
Some research before purchase would have made you aware of both problems.(Including a search in archives on this site)
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:19
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:19
Bob
I have to report that my experience with Brown-Davis has been totally opposite.
They fitted a belly Aux tank to my Troopy which had miniscule leak somewhere in the body cavity where the filler hose goes in.
Didn't ring, just took it back and they immediately fixed it, no abuse etc etc etc.
Much later a stainless steel
water tank that they had made for the rear, split across the bottom (not a seam).
Once again took it in for inspection and no ringing and they immediatley warranted it and arranged a day to fixed, which they did.
Also added a sight guage at my request for no added cost.
No more problems ever since.
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Follow Up By: Bob - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:53
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:53
I am in
Sydney and BD are in Vic so they will not be the repairer. Fitted by a dealer.
Same with my mate.
I have yet to contact them myself so we will see what thier response is.
Lucy the tanks that you had repaired should not have left the factory in the first place.
The publicity for BD tanks claims that they are pressure tested TWICE and there is no possibility of a leak.
Seems that the pressure
test claim is a load of B.S.
They also claim that the fuel gauge will read correctly but this is certainly not the case with us.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 20:44
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 20:44
I literally would not fit a BD tank to my rig if it was given to me free of charge!! I like to KNOW that the contents of said tank are gunna end up where I need 'em to be; not on the ground.
Ken, nice to know they fixed your leaks; but the damn things shouldn't have leaked in the 1st instance.
They are shoddy in my opinion.....I had one in my old GQ and it developed cracks/splits on the bottom on 2 separate occasions......you could see that it was where the internal seams were located. I reckon they either don't use thick enough sheet metal or the internal welds are not up to an acceptable standard.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 22:18
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 22:18
I am still suffering the after effects of the ONC 06 and haven't explained myself clearly enough.
(1) Aux Tank - didn't leak at all. It was where the filler hose either fitted the filler or entered the tank. Hose clip/band was not tight enough. Fitting problem.
(2)
Water tank - purpose built and fractured along baffle spot weld line due to metal stress. They drilled the fracture out past the two ends to relieve the stress and then welded a 6 inch stainless steel band right around it, and added the sight glass ports free of cost when I requested them.
David Brown also noticed something loose (not BD) underneath whilst inspecting the tank and directed the fitter to replace the loose nuts with nyloc nuts (free of charge)
Note: No leaks in the first instance and pressure tested both times.
No further problems.
I am lucky in that they are only 15kms from me and its no problem at all to drop in and 'shoot the c h i t' with them if necessary.
Having said that. You guys aren't the only ones who have had similar complaints that I have come across here in
Melbourne.
Just beats me how I have had a good run with them and others haven't.
I haven't had any other dealings with them though.
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Reply By: dieseltojo - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:45
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 18:45
Bob,I had an aux tank put in by BD 17 years ago into a GQ Patrol.As I had converted to LP gas.The universal shaft whilst spinning was coming into contact with the Tank and wearing through the side of the tank.It was only by accident that I noticed it when doing a service.Believe it or not BD blamed the truck and not his tank.But nothing was different on the vehicle at the time the tank was fitted.When I pointed this out he told me to get out of his work
shop,this after inviting me in to discuss the problem.After an argument they fitted a slightly smaller tank (narrower),this fixed the problem and I Vowed that never will by another Brown Davis made product as long as I live.
Your post brought it all back to me and have to admit That incident still is vivid in my mind,apparently after all these years their attitude is unchanged.As the installation you refer to is undoubtedly a serious safety concern apart from any other incontinences involved,I am sure the will come to the party and rectify the problem.It is god to hear of these things though as other are made aware that a
check on the under neath areas is always a good idea and should be performed regularly.
Please tell us how you went in the coarse of time.
Regards,Paul Klat.
Melbourne ,Vic,Australia.
Toyota LC. 2004 TD
Too many extras to mention.
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Reply By: Ken - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 20:14
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 20:14
Yep, not happy either. Had an oversize [supposedly 75 l but never managed to get more than 58 l in it] sub tank fitted to the GU. First fill, diesel everywhere; no O-ring fitted to the fuel sender !
Could have been interesting in a petrol vehicle. Lost me forever.
Ken
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Reply By: J.T. - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:11
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:11
It really suprises me how people with this attitude stay in business long.You,d reckon the word would spread and they,d be buggered.
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Reply By: davluchill - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:36
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:36
glad to see we were not the only ones with BD long range tank problems. we had a tank fitted which also leaked and all we got from them was a bad attitude.we took the car to another 4wd specialist who repaired it for us. the problem was the breather and the O ring were both installed upside down.
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Reply By: Darren from Gladstone & Districts Four Wheel Drive - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:52
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:52
Wow, I'm looking at converting my 1HZ diseasel 80 over to a V8, part of this is going to be long range tanks. I now know where I won't be going.
Be interested to see how the follow up goes with BD. I had heard various comments in reference to this vendor before, it is now proven not to be
forum related.
Cheers
Corry
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:54
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:54
I am the same as Mr Roachie..... If i was offered a Brown Davis 160litre main tank and a 90litre aux tank for free and they will also install them for free,,,,, i would decline the offer.....even if they offered to fill them for free as
well...
2003 we were two cars going to
Cape York,,, and we both suffered split tanks....
What a huge hassle that was...
Out of the things i have had break on trips,,,,, i couldnt think of anything worse except for a blown box or engine...
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Reply By: Graham56 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 22:40
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 22:40
Seems as we are on the topic of BD, and changing the conversation a little, their business attitude sucks, two mates bought product from em at the
2006 Wandin 4x4 show paid cash up front, got receipts and they still have not seen the goods, every week they go back everyweek they get bushells excuse, I know if I ran my business like that I would'nt have one.
Cheers Graham
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:09
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:09
One of those mates wouldn't be a Pajero driver waiting for sump guard plates by any chance?
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Follow Up By: Graham56 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:28
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:28
No not a Pajero.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Graham56 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:32
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:32
Sorry about that, hit submit to fast anyway Why do you ask?
You know someone with a similar prob??
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 16:57
Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 16:57
Yes, have heard a similar story.
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 07:50
Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 07:50
I don't have a long range tank as yet, however am looking at one to be fitted ASAP who makes a good tank???.
Are these tanks marketed from thier own
shop or 4x4 stores?
Maybe i will just ask who makes the tank.
Thnaks
Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 08:07
Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 08:07
I'm having a good run out of my ARB-supplied Long
Ranger Tank. Am now thinking about a replacement sub-tank too, but can't justify $900- odd to the minister for finance and war..........
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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 08:56
Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 08:56
Thats why i am having both aux and main tanks in my GU replaced with Long
Ranger's next week Roachie! Whilst I am single and have the $$$
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Reply By: Robin - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 09:25
Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 09:25
I paid more and got my tank elsewhere,
Heard a lot of previous reports and I didn't like whole attitude which begins with things like this line at top of there warranty -and I quote
"NO CLAIM will be recognised unless the correctly completed warranty
card is returned within seven days from time of purchase.
Late or incomplete cards will not be considered"
It goes downhill from there - so I hope the mail is on time
Robin Miller
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