1999 gu patrol 2.8 turbo diesel

Submitted: Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 22:52
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hi all, anyone got any info on the 1999 gu patrol 2.8 turbo diesel? looking at one with 170' kms on the clock for a reasonable price, seems in good nick. what would they be like towing a jayco outback camper?
would I be better going for a GUIII 3lTD?
thanks
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 23:08

Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 23:08
theres on on ebay for $12k... 2.8 that is.

you would be better off with a TD6 4.2 GU by a long shot.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 23:43

Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 23:43
hmmm $12.5k or the proce of a TD6....hmmmm just little bit of a price differnce!

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 23:48

Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 23:48
bit of a difference in performance, and many other things.

pay for what ya get
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 06:32

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 06:32
Sadly Truckster, with the 2.8,they didnt get what they paid for!!! LOL.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 15:21

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 15:21
Must be something wrong with it LOL - where do we start? These 4WD are still fetching around $16-17K in good condition, so I'd ask why is this one $4K cheaper? The higher asking price for a TD6 would probably pay off in better reliability and less aggravation in the middle of nowhere.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:13

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:13
Mike..
I agree!

Jiarna...
yea you would think so, But I have been seeing numerous of them now for similar prices, it would wanna be a GOOD one for $17k, with 4.2 GU's now down to $22k and up.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 00:02

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 00:02
There is a big performance issue with the 2.8 just driving normally. I test drove one ages ago before I got the 4.5 and I was very disappointed and the fact that it had no go. My Hilux had more power, if you are going to be towing get something with a better engine.
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Follow Up By: Nav 8 - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 10:27

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 10:27
Sorry Troll I would have to disagree with you there, I owned a 2.8 GU for 4 years and towed a camper trailer and 17' caravan with no problems whatsoever. They are down on power on the bottom end of a tourque scale but no problems at all once the turbo comes in. I have also owned a 2.8 Hilux for 2 years and there is no comparison in the power. the 2.8 GU being miles in front of the Hilux.

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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 21:56

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 21:56
Troll, I was at the post office on Monday arvo. I was just getting in my Gu, a courier driver asked me how i liked my 4.2.. he said he had a 2.8, tried everything to boost power and drivability.... no luck.. he said he had a driveway with a slight incline and he had to put it i n low gear to get up the driveway.. He was serious.. Were they that bad from new.. sounds incredible to put something on the market that was that pathetic.. or did only the dealers with car yards on flat roads have the 2.8 in stock? did no one road test before they bought.. michael
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 21:58

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 21:58
What i meant to write was " he had to put it in LOW RANGE"
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 23:01

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 23:01
Slight inclined driveway and low range...my ars*...I have a 2.8gu with a very steep driveway and still able to reverse the fully laden (1.4tonnes) kangacamper up in H2. But they do have a low down problem. Having said that I travelled this country in company with many a 4.2 GU (TD6 included) and never be found wanting or had to be recovered. Would I like a bigger donk...sure but hey I get 11.5l/100k on average (over 188000kms) I don't know of a single 4.2 that can get that.
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Follow Up By: Nav 8 - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 10:27

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 10:27
I always find it strange that so much hearsay comes into a question like this. I know a bloke who said this and that, or soandso knows someone who had one. I would only take advice from someone who has actually owned one and knows what they are talking about, As stated in my above post the 2.8 TD is one of the best vehicles I have owned, in fact I have owned two such vehicles first the G Q 2.8 TD for 4 yrs,then the G U 2.8TD 4 yrs. I towed many thousands of Km with both and had no problems at all. Sure,as all owners have stated they lack power at the bottom end but once rolling they are a good tower. I now own the 3 Ltr TD in my Navara and find it only better for take off and marginally better on the highway. I also agree the 4.2TD is better and have towed a large SES van with them but then it gets down to $$$$. if you can afford one OK but the 2.8TD will do the job. ,,,,,,,,,Nav.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 19:45

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 19:45
NAV 8!! As you put it only 'hearsay'! As my original post mentioned, this guy has this vehicle. So the only "hearsay" must be from me. I have been on this site for a few years now and like to think i contribute credible input. I only posted what the guy told me 5 days earlier. I can only believe what he told me was true. Maybe he has a bigger problem than he thinks. I wouldn't know if this is correct, i have never seen a 2.8 engine and have never been in one to note their performance. I did ask, "were they that bad from new"? How would i know. I just think your tone is a bit off the mark. regards Michael.
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Follow Up By: Nav 8 - Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 11:49

Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 11:49
Sorry Michael, no offence meant to you at all. It was just that the bloke told you he had to engage low range to get up the drive is ridiculous to say the least. If that was the case Nissan would never have sold any, or he had a major problem with the engine. In my experience they wernt that bad a vehicle for towing but on the sand they were sadly lacking power. Regards Nav.
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Reply By: drifta - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 04:56

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 04:56
I had a 1999 gu 2.8 and towed a jayco eagle outback with it. Did about 20000km's towing it half way round Australia. Once your moving it tows well but you have to ride the clutch if your trying to take off on any sort of an incline and around town with a camper it's not much fun. If your not towing there fine. I would go for the 3lt 2003 model or newer or a 4.2 is certinley the best option. My motor died at 170000km's and it now has a 6.5 chevy in it, that improved the towing. You can do what Bilbo did buy one with a stuffed motor for around $10000 and for another $25000 put a 6.5 in it. It's a nice package for $35000.
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Reply By: scottish dave - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 07:29

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 07:29
thanks guys. The bloke at RACV told me the same, underpowered and not much good for towing, and a nissan salesman told me to try an get a 2.8 TD cause they have great engines and are good for towing!! might keep saving for the 4.2
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Follow Up By: djpatrol - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 11:01

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 11:01
Way to go mate I own a 4.2 td and tow a 20ft van with ease 2ton.Go for it go the Grunt.
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Reply By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 09:52

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 09:52
I have both at the moment, 98 2.8 TD and a 99 4.2 TD, the 2.8 isn't too bad in standard form, it lacks in bottom end power until the turbo kicks in around 2000rpm, after that it goes as well as a 4.2, that problem was fixed with a 'motsons chip' $1500 new, 7-900 2nd hand, no more slipping clutch on hill take-offs and goes slightly better than the 4.2 which has dump pipe, exhaust and tune-up done.
A former member on this site, 'Grungle', has a 99 GU which had a 2.8 in it with motsons and towed a KK on a regular basis, Had no problems and was a great tow vehicle for general travel, the only place it lacked was in the slower, crawl situations, he put in the lower rock crawling tranfer ratio's, this helped, but in the end he did a 4.2 conversion as he did a lot of competition style off roading where the bottom end power of the 4.2 is better.
So unless you're doing a lot of this style of off roading a 2.8 with a motsons will not only go and tow better than the 4.2, but will also consistantly return 7 - 8 km/lt (12.5 - 14.2lt/100km) compared to the 4.2 at 6.5 - 7km/lt (14.3 - 15.4lt/100km)
The reason some of us prefer the 4.2 is the proven reliability and simplicity of the engine, as well as the better bottom end for 'fairly serious' style off roading.
BTW, our 2.8 has 250,000 k's on it with the only problem being the injector pump, which is a common problem on 2.8's, had the spacer plate fitted, $120, this solved the problem on 90% of them, unfortunately mine was one of the very few where the pump went again 6 months later, replaced it with one from the wreckers off a low km exchange eng $600 supply and fit, no problems since.
If you're still undecided and live in brisbane you are quite welcome to take ours for a drive.

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Follow Up By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 09:56

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 09:56
Just read your previous reply, "RACV" you obviously live in 'mexico', bit far to go for a test drive. Maybe some-one down that way has one with a chip in it?

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Reply By: Member - Coyote (SA) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 11:39

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 11:39
I had a 99 2.8 GU and sold it recently.. I towed a fully loade dbox trailer from Brissy to ADL with it and it coped just fine (couldn't sit on 100 all the way like I can with my new 4.2) but you get what you pay for. I sold it to a guy who turned around and towed a corona sedan back to brissy with it and he recons he had no troubles.
In my opinion, the 2.8 is not a good tow vehilce (it can but not real well) the 4.2 is far better siuted but of ocurse you do pay extra.. I would steer clear of the 2.8 if you plan to do a lot of towing. it is a little engine literally working it's ring gear out to pull all that weight.. That said.. as my first 'big' 4WD I was pretty happy with it in general.. I used it as a stepping stone to going the whole hog and buying the 4.2...
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