Apply for permits or just wing it???

Submitted: Friday, May 26, 2006 at 13:50
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Should I apply for permits now or are the places we are going to be going to have permits then and there on the spot - we are going to Innamincka,plenty Hwy to Alice through East MacD Ranges, West MacD Ranges, Finke, Ood track.....can we pay for things like that there or is it best to do it now???

Laura
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Reply By: Member - Coyote (SA) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 14:07

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 14:07
Most places that require 'transit permits' require them to be applied for in advance. The National Parks often have an 'honour' systme for Overnight camping within parks which you can "self Register" on site. But access permits you will need in advance.
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Reply By: Marc - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 14:34

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 14:34
For Innamincka you need a desert park pass. In the NT you are ok in the east / west ranges without a pass but most have camping fees as mentioned above.
Not sure about the plenty but the trek info (look at the banner) will have that info
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 16:08

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 16:08
I thought if you camped on the 'town common' you didn't need a SA desert parks pass?

Just paid $5.00 per day in the box on a honoury system?

First time we went we camped out on the creek, and had a pass.
Other couple of times we were passing through and just had one night on the common.

At school holidays it can get busy on the common.
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 09:18

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 09:18
Not quite right mate. Merrinie loop requires a permit but I personaly have never got one and never will. No one will ask you for one and if they do tell them to get St#@%ed!
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Reply By: scoof - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 14:57

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 14:57
I have allways had permits but never ever been asked to produce it or even asked if I have a permit.Has anyone else been chatted about it and what happens if you don't have a permit.
Regards Scoof
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:09

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:09
Passes get checked at Dalhousie Springs, the ranger just stops for a chat, but you can see he's checking out your pass!
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Reply By: ian - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 15:24

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 15:24
Laura,
I am not aware of any permits that you need at all, depending on where you stay at Innamincka. When there I stay out of town and buy a one night permit from the store. There is an area nearby where permits are not required.
Permits are not required for those roads.
Ian
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 16:19

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 16:19
I believe you need a Desert Parks pass to camp at Coongie Lake or Cullyamurra Waterhole. Give the ranger station at Innamincka a call. Town Common was around $5 but it gets pretty crowded in the school holidays.
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Follow Up By: Atomnaki - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 19:54

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 19:54
Richard W
Like the pic of ya Rig in the MUD ! LOL It's a classic.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:03

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:03
Laura,

From the description of your route, the only one you should need is the Desert Parks Pass. This pass is not your average "you need it to come onto my land" crap, but is an informative kit, with great outback maps including points of interest for general reference. This documentation gives an informative overview of desert regions and how you should best live and travel in it to reduce adverse impact on the environment as well as enjoy the experience. The funds raised are put back into improving facilities for future visitors. (or so we are told)

The only other permit you may need (although this does get up my wick) is a Mereenie Loop pass if you intend traveling from Kings Canyon to Hermannsburg and through the West McDonnell Ranges to Alice Springs, without having to backtrack along the Ernest Giles Road. I guess though when it is put into perspective, this only costs a few dollars and can be obtained from either end at the time of travel.

As for anything else?
Who's going to stop you and arrest you if you haven't got a "permit"?
If you find yourself in this unlikely situation, just plead ignorant.

Enjoy you trip!
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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:44

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:44
If you already have all the maps and know about the area the desert parks pass is a complete waste of money and a rip off.

If you are totally unprepared for the area then it is money well spent.

Looking for adventure.
In whatever comes our way.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 20:53

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 20:53
Hi Equinox,

Not a ripoff - you get 12 months unlimited camping in some great places for $90. Good value when you hang around or come back.
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Follow Up By: Marc - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:00

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:00
as with anything, a hoon is a hoon. PAY the money and keep it open as enough is being closed elsewhere. With the money to get there and the enjoyment of the remote experience, it is cheap. Your the type that spends $60.00 on a case of beer and then rips off the 3 bucks camping fee. Do the right thing and be proud to be a part of the 4wd club and supporting our parks.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:34

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:34
Equinox,

I guess some people are always looking for the negative side of everything and go through life grudgingly.

Hope you enjoy it anyway matey.

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Follow Up By: Hairy - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 09:22

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 09:22
$60.00 for a case of beer!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 18:01

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 18:01
Laura

You do not need any permits or passes for yopur proposed journey.

You do NOT need a Desert Parks Pass to visit Innamincka. However if you want to visit the parks and reserves in the Innamincka area you will need a camping permit

As mentioned, most National Parks in the NT, and SA for that matter, have self registrations and an 'honour' system and a 'dishonesty' box....lol
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 09:25

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 09:25
You are supposed to have a permit for Mereenie loop but know one I know ever has!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:55

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:55
Last time I went that way I did not bother but others in the group wanted to get one. When they went to CATIA offices they were told 'Sorry, we have run out of them. Just go'

It is just another bit of nonsense that public servants have thought up to keep the indigenous groups happy and to line the pockets of whoever. Who knows. It was a stupid idea in the first place and still is.
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 20:09

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 20:09
wing it!
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:15

Friday, May 26, 2006 at 22:15
It should be a simple decision ..... if you are going somewhere that requires a permit, buy one, if you aren't, don't.
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Follow Up By: hanson - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 10:35

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 10:35
?????
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 11:15

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 11:15
Is that hard to understand, I tried to think of a simpler way to explain it ... but couldn't.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:57

Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 18:57
Hahahaha....the English language,...so hard to understand sometimes....lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Coyote (SA) - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:16

Monday, May 29, 2006 at 08:16
I dont think the question was.. "can I get away with not buying a pass" it was more along the lines of "Is one required?"
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