What I've been up to lately....(who cares?)

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Have just done 2 more "things" to my Patrol.......

1). Added an extra air compressor in parralel to the existing MaxAir. This is a exact replica pump and they are wired together via either side of a New Era relay, connected to the Fullriver AGM battery which sits in the cargo area, only about 300mm from the dual pumps. Now I have the best set-up short of an Endless Air (IMHO).

2.) Have fitted a FACET low pressure fuel pump in the fuel line, just in front of the sub-tank transfer pump. This has been spoken about before on here and I will be interested to see if this makes much difference to the Patrol when it is under load (which, @ over 3 tonne, is most of the time!! hahaha)
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Reply By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:51

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:51
Glad you have added to your Patrol - I was worried Willie would catch up to you on the accessories list. Are you doing any trips in the near future young fella?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:24

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:24
G'day Doc,
Off to Andamooka and over the north end of Lake Torrens this weekend. Other trips are planned for the next several months; every chance we get!!!! hahaha

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Roachie
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 13:29

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 13:29
Hi Bill,

Don't expect too much of Andamooka. No character IMHO, unlike Coober Pedy.

Have a good trip anyway.

Bill.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 14:14

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 14:14
Thanks Sand Man....We'll just take it as it comes. Most of these little places have some sort of charm (but often it's well hidden!!!! hahahaha).

Avagoodlongweegend

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Reply By: Member - Ed. C.- Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:53

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:53
Who cares?????

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Reply By: Bros 1 - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:57

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 22:57
Roachie,
Looks like the old money tree has come in with another bumper crop bloke. Don't forget to keep the fertilizer and water up to it. LOL.
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 23:13

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 23:13
Geez Bill

I better get moving and find something else to fit to mine.......LOL
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:17

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:17
Seen a nice line on pom pom's at Spotlight Willem ;-)))
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:25

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:25
No chance I could ever catch up to you Willie, ol' mate!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: warthog - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 23:16

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 23:16
What are the issues you are having under load Roachie, and how will the fuel pump fix them? I had a quick forum search under "facet fuel pumps" and didn't find alot.
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Follow Up By: warthog - Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 23:22

Thursday, Jun 08, 2006 at 23:22
Had a bit more of a read, cavitation=loss of power?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:19

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:19
Yes mate, that's my theory........she sometimes has a "miss" if I rev her out over 3000. It could also have been something to do with a less-than-perfect seal on the bottom rubber washer on my CAV filter set-up. When the new pump was fired up for the first time, diesel spillage was evident at the bottom of the filter, indicating that it may have been sucking a little bit of air on occasions.
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Follow Up By: revhead307 - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 14:47

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 14:47
Nice mods Roachie,

I have the same problem with the bottom washer on my Lucas leaking occasionally. gets so bad there is a small bubble stream.

Have re-fitted it multiple times, so its either find a different washer or pull it off.

As it cant be good pulling bubbles of air through.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 15:09

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 15:09
G'day Rev,
Yes mate, not good to have the bubbles coming up......that is where this cavitation business comes into it and (in my case anyway) caused a loss of power when under load.
However, with the small electric pump now fitted, this won't be a problem for me as, even if there is a minor air leak, the pump will maintain the flow okay. Of course it is far better NOT to have any leaks at all, regardless of how small/minor they may be.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 22:29

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 22:29
Hi Roachie.

I"m a old fashioned B....st but what i have learnt over the years is that a diesel of any discription has to have a complete air free system. DOSEN'T matter what pumps are there!! YA can't have any AIR at all!!.

Regards Axle.
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Reply By: Wok - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:40

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:40
Roachie,

What is the replica Max-Air called?....Source?

Thks.....eng
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:23

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:23
I think it's a MkIII or something like that. It is "identical" except that the screw-on plastic air filter is slightly larger and has a different shaped foam insert. I'm currently thinking of a new filtration system, whereby there will be a single small oil filter used with a "T" piece from the 2 pumps. I've seen this done on a full-size compressor in a workshop.....seemed like a good idea, as those dicky little plastic filters are prone to have the back cover knocked off.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 at 20:25

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 at 20:25
Site Link

Just found this compressor on ebay.....it is exactly the same as the one I have hooked up to the Maxair.
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Follow Up By: Wok - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:47

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:47
Thanks for the link, been looking at this....
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:03

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:03
Or this:
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:12

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:12
Watching with interest Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:26

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:26
You missed 2 words Bonz ("and fees")!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:28

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:28
I have two words to say to you Bill, Two words.

Wheres it fit?

Hahahaha thanx Kath and Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:25

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:25
Watching with interest and fees Roachie ..........don't forget the industry I "work" (I know it's a oxymoron) in..........you cannot use the word "interest" alone.......it must be "interest and fees" may apply.

Sorry it's a bit of an 'in' joke.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:27

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:27
hahaha NOW I get it, working for the Common Wealth of us all
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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY VIC) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 11:59

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 11:59
Gday Mr Roachie
Have just read your post and would like to offer to make a new gasket for you to test. I can make them from 3mm NITRILE CORK or NITRILE .All that i need is the size . ie the od and the id of the gasket.
Just a friendly offer
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 14:02

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 14:02
Mate; you're a champion!! I was gunna have a go at making a new one out of a tractor tube I've got in the shed (well, a small bit of it, anyway...hahaha). I've got a couple of sets of hole punches, but I don't think the larest one is quite big enough.

I don't have the dimensions handy. It's about a 12mm centre hole and about 25mm outside diameter. It's just a simple rubber washer and I'm not sure what the nitrile cork etc is.

I 'spose the best thing to do would be to ring the supplier (Denco in Wagga) and just get 'em to send me one; eh?

Thanks again mate and I'll let you know if I need to take you up on your offer.

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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY VIC) - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 15:42

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 15:42
Roachie
Pleeeese dont use an inner tube .Nitrile is the product that your oil seals are
made of....Nitrile cork is what they used to make tappet cover gaskets ,and still do
on some vehicles..you know ,,that scabby looking stuff that is black and
brown ,mixed like a fruit cake and all glued together...The inner tube has no

resistance to oil and will swell and leak again.

just call
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Reply By: Old Scalyback & denny - Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 17:24

Friday, Jun 09, 2006 at 17:24
goodday bill
what have you done with annette locked her away from the computor noe your not so "busy " again LOLOLOLOL
anyway a question what happens if the diesel line breaks or whatever is your pump on permanently or do you havea switch or some sort of protection covering the pump
i reckon the is a good idea especially if you have a fine micron fuel filter

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:16

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:16
G'day Steve,
No switch at the moment.......pump comes on when ignition is on, so I am conscious of the potential for a problem.

Of more concern to me is the current vulnerability of the new "rubber" lines, which start from just near the OE transfer pump and finish near the gearbox cross member support. The pump is mounted on it's side, so those 2 hoses are prone to the possibility of getting a stick caught up there and ripping the whole shebang off!!! However, as of the coming weekend, Roachie's Engineering and Metal Fabrications will swing into full action and problem should be nulified. I have a CAV filter which, AFAIK, is no finer than the OE filter (just heaps cheaper and with a glass bowl), but I do have the other gizmo in the line before the filter (the Morison's DeBug).

We just did a good trip over the long weekend over some reasonably rough tracks and luckily there were no issues with the pump and/or associated plumbing

Cheers mate

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Old Scalyback & denny - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 at 20:39

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2006 at 20:39
goodday bill
just a thought but can you get for fuel line a pressure cutoff like is used on dishwashers and washing machines you would think something would be available for race cars etc

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:05

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:05
Steve,
That might make it too complicated......you know me; I like to keep things simple hahahahahah ;-))

Cheers

Roachie
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