2nd Gripe of the Week

Submitted: Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:23
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People being slow to dip their headlights!

You know when you're driving along a hilly road at night, and before you see a vehicle coming the other way you can see the glow of their headlights above the crest? So you dip your headlights before they come over the said crest.

Or is that only me? There seem to be a lot of people around who don't understand this idea...

BTW bring on the friday funnies! Can't you see I need them!
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:27

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:27
A personal favourite of mine as well. The other one I find annoying is the way people will load the back of the car to the gunnels or hitch up the van/trailer with all manner of crap in it, then not bother to adjust their lights. Even on low beam, they can be blinding.

You're right, where are the funnies?
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Follow Up By: A.J - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:54

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:54
You could always burn out their retinas with your Light Force spotties. . . . . . but then you might crash into them and damage their car with your BULLBAR!
LOL
A.J
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Follow Up By: Member - Neville V (NSW) - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 22:04

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 22:04
Hmm,

The new XGT's might be just right for the task!

LOL
Cherokee
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:47

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:47
What about the ones that persist in illegally driving with their fog (read wanker) lights on?
A lot of these lights are as bright as driving lights, also it seems most of them have been adjusted up.

As far as dipping lights goes, the law is quite specific, you must dip your your lights at 300 metres, OR .... when the other vehicle dips it's lights, no matter what the distance.
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Follow Up By: Rokkitt - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:52

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:52
Fog lights......

Dont get me started......has anyone actually realised these things are for foggy conditions (poor visibility) that is why they are called fog lights. It seems most new cars come with these hard wired "on" - is this some new legislation?????
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Follow Up By: Rokkitt - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:55

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:55
Fog lights......

Dont get me started......has anyone actually realised these things are for foggy conditions (poor visibility) that is why they are called fog lights. It seems most new cars come with these hard wired "on" - is this some new legislation????? There cannot be a switch or people would use it....surely!

I also agree with dipping lights, if you see a car coming over a hill dip your lights "before" he gets there not just after he arrives! but the fog lights drive me nuts - one day I will get out of my car and go explain there is a switch to operate those little lights; and turn the bloody things off for them (probably wont actually but a nice thought)

Rod
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Follow Up By: madcow - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 10:59

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 10:59
They should be booked for using them! especially around town.
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Follow Up By: Feral - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 12:46

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 12:46
Booked for being seen and be safe........

JEEEEZZZ, don't tell the Victorian Government......they will introduce a new level of fines.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Skinny- Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 13:53

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 13:53
It is illegal to drive with additional ligts except in fog and except out of built up area.
I am sorry but all those late sipping fog light drivers pxzs me off.

Where I drive home I would say 25% of driver have these trendy city machines with fog lights on. I said to my wife if they keep doing it we will have to start selling little fog generators like they sell cans of mud for city for wheel drives.

Well Sydney turned on the fog today. but guess what. The foggies did not turn on their fog lights to be seen. Why, because it was daytime.

Spare me days.
Skinny

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 16:03

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 16:03
Feral ....... It's not a case of being seen & safe, that is what headlights are for.
Foglight use is illegal unless it is actually foggy, & by the way, a fine is applicable!
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Follow Up By: Feral - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 18:55

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 18:55
Shaker......do you really want me to list everything that is illegal and a fine is applicable but we still do it every day of our life.

There are so many laws that are made and enforceable but the authorities, not just police but others as well, do not bother because the offence is so widespread it is not worth the hassle.

It would be a very grumpy cop if you were going to get stung for this type of offence.
Thousands of people do it....suggest you get over it.

Cheers.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:03

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:03
I disagree with you Feral. Fog lights have the potential to cause serious injury even death.

My opinion only as usual.

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Follow Up By: Feral - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:30

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:30
Are you serious....driving a motor vehicle DOES cause serious injury even death!!!

How can you say that driving a vehicle with fog lights or any other lights that can be used during the day cause serious injury or death.

What are we going to have...the vigilante police booking people because they have their lights on during the day. They would not waste their time.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:39

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:39
The fact is that people are putting bigger globes in & aiming them up.
Some are being booked, I believe the fine is $135.00.
Why do you need to drive with them on, even at night, when there is no fog???
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Follow Up By: Feral - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 20:09

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 20:09
ahhhhh....there you go. We have the full story now. Obviously if they are running bigger globes and adjusting them that dazzle other drivers they should be booked.

But for those people that run their extra lights and that are legal..what is the problem. They are trying to be safe or being a w**** it's only your opinion.

There are bigger things in life than be worried about other drivers with their fog lights on.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 22:48

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 22:48
Doesn't matter what they are trying to do ...the fact is, it is not legal to use them in clear conditions.
You could say that that you are trying to be seen by having half a dozen IPFs blazing across the front of your vehicle.
To be quite honest, a lot of the standard fog/wanker lights are quite dazzling.
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 00:42

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 00:42
Not sure were you guys get your facts from, but vic roads vehicles are set up with there lights on all the time , they switch off when the ignition goes off . Would love to see a cop booka vic roads car
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Follow Up By: Rokkitt - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:26

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:26
Hi,

Well I guess with these opinions we will need to fit "fog lights" to the rear of our vehicles - these can turned on to advise a motorist behind that they are unnessaccarily blinding me.

The light pattern of a fog light is very broad and certianly does not give any additional distance over a spread beam and as such offer no advantage in normal conditions (so must be purely for "looks").

Light beam patterns

However in very poor visibility the spread beam is not reflected so heavily off the "fog" and so gives better penetration and of course vision. In this circumstance they are beneficial.

Rokkitt
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Reply By: Leroy - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:18

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:18
Dipped mine last night for someone....wasn't quick enough as they flased me one millisecond after dipping theirs and I thought I dipped fast after that! You can't win either way.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: owenia - Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 02:33

Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 02:33
Don't worry about it Leroy...you've just encountered a 'road safety conscious' driver.

BE HAPPY ! there aren't too many of them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 09:39

Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 09:39
He might have been saying "thanks for dippin'...."

;-))
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 19:58

Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 19:58
Yeah, then you're supposed to flash yours to acknowledge his thanks....if you're really polite ;-)
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Reply By: 944runner - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:51

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:51
this is one of my biggest gripes with night driving, people who don't dip their lights when you can quite clearly see another car is around the corner or on the other side of the hill. We also have quite a few people who seem to think it is necessary to drive around our suburb with high beams on lighting up everyones houses whilst they sleep.
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Follow Up By: Member - Neville V (NSW) - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 22:07

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 22:07
I do a fair bit of country driving, and it never ceases to amaze me how many people hit the high beam switch right after I've overtaken them - another one of my favourites ;o)
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Follow Up By: Frank_Troopy - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 23:01

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 23:01
Hi Neville,
Maybe you should check your headlight adjustment. Perhaps they think your lights are on high beam as you are coming up behind them.

Cheers Frank.
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Reply By: Brid from Cost Effective Maintenance - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 13:06

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 13:06
I agree as a generalization.

However particularly on country roads you often come across a big sweeping bend, which might be a fair way off. With the leadlights of each vehicle shining from opposing ends of the bend, neither will cop the glare, but I often find the car coming my way will dip its lights as soon as it's aware of me. It you dip too early, you might not see a roo or other hazzard early enough. I tend to keep the beam up longer in these conditions...doesn't cause any distress, and it's safer for me.
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Reply By: RupertDog - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 13:27

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 13:27
I do a lot of country driving at night. Must say trucks are pretty good at dipping, but my biggest issue is with some newers cars where the low beam is super bright, and you don't know if they are hi or low beam. Don't want to flash the driver in case they were low, and get a blast a daylight from their high beams.

Also, absolutley hate the driver with one headlight out of alignment. Don't know why, but they always seem to be directed rigth into your eyes. You know that they are on low beam (surburban streets or similar), but one light always manages to blind you.

Where are the traffic patrols when you need them !!

I know I was told to dip as soon as you see the headlight from the oncoming car, not wait until "you can see the whtes of their eyes" like some drivers.

Bit of a gripe, but now I am happy !!

RD
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Reply By: Footloose - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 14:28

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 14:28
As well as these gripes (which have been around for a long long time unfortunately), I have discovered a relatively new one. People slipping through red lights ! Quite on purpose. They look to see if there's anything coming, or a policeman around, and then they're gone, leaving the rest of us with our mouths open.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:38

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 19:38
Makes sense to me red liights other than in built areas or peak houur are jjust to protectstupid people anyway - No one eve knows oof thhe giive way to the riight law any more coz all intersections are controlled to protect stupidpeople. I still remember the days when after a certain time thhe traffic lights would flah orangge after a certain time to allow people to drive normally and follow the road rules
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Reply By: Member - Steve (ACT) - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 15:17

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 15:17
I remember once travelling with a semi in front and a buzz box behind me loaded with skis onto head for the snow, and he had his high beams on behind me for a good 20 minutes. Suddenly the truck in front of me start to slow significantly and of couse so do I. The buzz box zooms around both of us, then next thing I know it's like daylight, the semi switched on everything he had!

Now I know some will say how dangerous and irresponsible it was to do because it could have caused the other guy to have an accident but there was a bit off me that had that "haha" feeling.

Sandy
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 09:43

Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 09:43
There would have a GREAT BIG bit of me that had that "haha" feeling.

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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 00:18

Sunday, Jun 25, 2006 at 00:18
Yep i probably would have hahahaed myself into a ditch over that one.....that is just priceless.
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Reply By: TROOPYMAN A.D. 1998 - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 16:25

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 16:25
What about the ones that dont even turn there head lights on at night until they think........duuuh why is it so dark ? Why are they flashing me ? Why are they yelling at me ? whats wrong ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 18:46

Friday, Jun 23, 2006 at 18:46
TM,

I'm with you, super dangerouse I reckon just before dusk when 90% of drivers have their lights on, and the "odd" one doesn't because you start concentrating on the lights of oncoming cars rather than the actuall car, easy to miss them.

Even if you can still see relativly well and don't really need your lights on if the majority of other road users have them on then switch yours on!

Browny
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Reply By: Off-track - Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 22:35

Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 22:35
Annoys the bleep outa me on night drives. I have reverted to ensuring that the driver 'pays the penalty' just before we pass each other.

I recall doing a trip around WA and doing most of the Nullabor at night - was absolutely sick and tired of inconsiderate high beamers. Was about 300km from Pt Aguta when I finally had enough and said to the missus "The next car will have to dip before me, I am not going to dip until he does". Soon enough a set of (paricularly bright) lights appeared some way off and I thought, right this is it - Showdown Time. He didnt dip. I wasnt about to dip first. My eyes were killing as I thought "Good set of lights on that bugger". We passed each other with all lights blazing and all retinas burning! I reckon he won though as he was in a long nose Kenworth with a few more lights on the bullbar than me.

Another thing that irks me is people that drive with parkers on. What is the point of this? Are they saving money on their electricity account? Before too long it's full dark and they stil havent gone to low beam.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 22:39

Saturday, Jun 24, 2006 at 22:39
Or the ones that switch their indicators on as they turn!
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Follow Up By: Rokkitt - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:19

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:19
Hi,

Not sure but aren't you allowerd to drive in town (illuminated areas) with just side lights (parkers), don't shoot me for this statement as I am not sure. Not that I do generally......does anyone know for a fact if it is legal or not?

As you say dangerous as you do forget to put the main beam on.

Anonymous....:)
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 13:57

Monday, Jun 26, 2006 at 13:57
This seems pretty lame bitching guys! On a recent trip to and from Sydney at night I had the displeasure of late dippers, no dippers, no tail lights (on a trailer), no brake lights, morons overtaking on double lines, some wanting to go fater than me (doing the obligatory 10 over), useless women drivers (that was the wife on her turn to drive), unbelievably slow traffic that finds the accelerator at every overtaking lane, roadwork signs in the middle of the night - and guess what, no one working, fixed cameras in every town along the New England and these things were strategically set up to catch not save AND finally to arrive in Sydney to find that petrol was at an all time high of $1.44/litre.

I feel better now, thanks.

Kind regards
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