Nissan 3.0 diesel turbo blowup

Obviously not reading the site very well - there must be on average at least one post a week on this problem - the motor as fitted to the patrol is crap - fitted to the navara is great.

Nowimnumberone you are such a Diamond methinks your nose groweth far too long.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nowimnumberone.
I'm sure someone posted or replied just the other day saying that they thought the situation was exaggerated and that all the stories were 'my mate's girlfriend's gaylover's, uncle's, boss's etc', and that people on this site were scaremongering or something to that effect. But here we are with another case.

plot thickens i spent an hour talking to nissan dealer today about this supposde problem they assure me all was fixed early on in 2000 was a problem with first 3ltr disels but nissan fixed all... Im no clearer on it i was looking for a 4.2 ltr diesel no joy only the 3ltr diesel.....scary stuff when your spending the dollars.......

is he no1 but?...or is a duck always a duck!

number 1- I would type a reply, but I am pretty sure that you are having a lend of everyone!
If not then maybe your real name is Yoshimoto Nissan-san and you are pretending to be an every day punter in order to protect your family name from the terrible 3 litre ??? Which is pretty funny too!!

series 2 have same issues. Dont let nissan sweep u away .....keep pushing and insisting. Do some research and find out some facts ..always helps when they know your up to date with facts.

Personally....i am very surprised no one has called ray hadley or allen jones about this. Publicity is not something nissan needs at the moment. Even though most of us know of the problem, the general public would think ALL 3 ltrs are faulty and not buy a series 3.
Come to think of it....John LAws would love this as he is sponsored by Toyota...he would havea field day....picture this ...

U call telling him of ur failure, u tell him nissan wont come to the party and u want to ask if any toyota dealers listening can help you out ....would be very interesting indeed. Just make sure you make the point for the listeners that nissan have a major engine failure with the 3 ltr engins and they wont fix it.

dont sit there....make some noise...

Ange

Coke, think you might have posted this in the wrong place? You put your followup at the bottom of post saying that there has never been a problem with 3 litre nissans?

"im not saying it dosnt happen but i dont think it is a problem. "

ROTFALMAO!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Hey can I tell you another one, there was an ozzie, irishman and englashman sitting in a pub ....

Dont feed the troll Jeffy! LMAO!... taken me all this time to stop laughin!

hey barnesy you got the same surname as me...if its barnes...

LAura B

Yes Laura my name is Barnes and a fine English name it is too. Good to see your little one will carry the name for a while yet, until she gets married i suppose. sorry that should be IF she gets married and IF she decides not to keep her maiden name of course.

Oil & filter changed every 5000.
Bulla

Nissan "genuine" oil? I don't see any oil rigs with Nissan on the side...

Jeff, im not being a smart arse but if u could tell us who makes it then maybe that could be a usfull bit of info, not like your last comment. we are only trying to help each other out.

What oil was used & how often, but i still would try to see what nissan have to say, 6yrs old may be the prob. i am sorry to about such a terrible way to start a holiday.

That was my thought too. What a horrible start to the trip.

Viv

Could be a conspiracy. . . . . . maybe the bloke tha serviced your engine. . . . . wait for it . . . . SWAPPED it for his dodgy one???? Check your engine #! We all know about re-birthing a whole car, what about just a CRAP engine?

My 2000 GU got to 195000 before the self destruction took place. Nissan HQ did nothing refusing to recognise any fault. It is all heresay according to Andrew there.Got it repaired but I paid. Been great since ( 6 months). Done 2000kms! Very dissapointed with Nissan and the vehicle. Feel extremely sorry for your daughter as it has ruined the holiday. I was lucky as it happened 10kms from home!
Generally they are a heap of crap and not worth the money and that includes the 4.2 which the inlaw has bought.

Yes well my June 2000 3.00 ZD30 has done nearly 180,000 now and is running like a top. Power a plenty, smooth and economical. Has had oil changed every 5000 since new. Had the dipstick mod at 10,000ks too.

I still reckon Nissan will come to the party on yours.

Thanks for the show of confidence Notso. This vehicle has been in great hands but unfortunately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bulla

Yeah, I know but you just go on hoping don't you??

Ah well, what do I buy instead, may as well do what I've done with all my vehicles to date, use it till it demonstrates that it is unreliable, I guess.

Steve,
My 2000 3.0 ltr TD is now up to 156,000 and hasn't missed a beat. I've got a DiTronic unit on and change the oil and filter every 5000 klms. I use a full synthetic which matches and surpasses the Nissan spec.
I've pulled my camper trailer up sand dunes, had to winch up hills and done all sorts of wonderful stuff. Maybe I've jinxed my trip up North next week but so far my vehicle has been great. The word "crap" isn't one of the first words that comes to mind when I think about my Patrol. I do miss the low down torque of the straight six diesel but hey you can't have everything.

Martyn, how much does it cost you in oil!? This is a serious question. Every 5k with fully synthetic, I'm guessing the patrol uses what, about 10L of oil? Holy crap that must be expensive!

Jeff,
I don't use my patrol as much as I used to, bought my Range Rover bush hack which I also run on full synthetic and change every 15 to 20k depending on the amonut of "rough stuff" I do.
I change the oil in the Patrol every maybe five months, if I'm doing a trip like I am next week which will be at least a couple of thousand K at running close to 4k since the last change I won't be changing the oil before I go if you know what I mean.
I'm the WA agent for a full synthetic oil so I get a bit of a discount, we use this oil on machinery that spins at 36,000 rpm at work and lasts five years when the gearbox used to last 6 months on a mineral based oil so I'm pretty confident the oil is good stuff. This oil recenty had a test in "street Commodore" mag and came out the best. For a little bit around $80 for 5L to me that's a cheap investment both from a mechanical aspect and a reliability aspect. The intial buy hurt at close to $160 but after that I don't use any oil so I just buy 5L every five to seven thousand K's, I think my own comfort is worth is worth $160 a year.
I was going to advertise on here but being only a small business I couldn't really afford it.

Sorry, when I said uses, I meant takes in an oil change. Ie the surf takes 10L when I do a change with a filter. Even with just a cheap mineral oil that's nearly $50 bucks!!

I probally do a change every 3 months or so (I do it every 5k) and I use penrite HPR Japanese Diesel Semi Synthetic, cost's me about $100 for 20L which is two changes. Fully synthetic is normally twice that price which I honestly just could not afford in my current situation (we are a 1 income family at the moment).

Does the ZD30 only take 5L on an oil change?? Maybe that's part of the cause of their problems?

Actually Martyn Nissan recommend against the use of fully synthetics and say not to use any oil above a CF spec. It is allspelt out in the Owners Handbook.

Jeff,
You're right it was part of the problem in the series one engine, I believe these were recalled and had a 7.5 litre including the filter oil capacity installed.
Mine I believe is a series one engine and it does have an oil capacity of 7.5 litres including the filter. So as you can see I get two changes out of fifteen litres which works for me. Doesn't allow much room for error or using any during between changes.
I get genuine filters from Nissan and run the best oil I can so should anything happen at least I've done my bit, I might have a bit of a claim. Vehicle seems to run better overall, saying that this could be a psychological comfort thing......

Blown4by,
Not sure which handbook you have, again I agree with you the handbook does say that, which in my case is a 2000 handbook. Unfortunately things evolve and something Nissan now specify is a specific oil for the 3.0 TD engine which correct me if I'm wrong is a synthetic oil. This has only been recommended for maybe the last twelve months.
You mustn't put a full synthetic in a new engine it ruins the bores and rings, you end up with blow by.
I don't believe I'm doing any harm running a better oil than I'm supposed to all I'm doing in some people's eye is wasting my money, which at this time is still my own choice.
When I wrote to Nissan specifying the oil I was going to be using the gent who replied to me didn't seem to think this was a problem, despite being a better spec than Nissan specified.
Thanks for your comments.

ditto

Motherhen, it's a pitty you have to take such precuations because of a possibilty, maybe, could be, don't know, hope not, I'll scream if it does, I hope it doesn't happen half way up this hill, I hope it doesn't happen half way up this beach !!!

P.S were you guys down at parry's beach WA in early Feb this year?

Hi Muzzgit - not us - we were in Tasmania.

Just spoke with my daughter and Nissan have said to get it to a dealer and they will assess it. Fingers crossed. At least it seems they are still talking so that's positive. Thanks Pud & Bararb R - your 165000 raises our hopes.

Interesting reading Gavin. My GU had a faulty Air Flow Sensor and lost heaps of power. It struggled home (about 15kms) and then into the dealer. New sensor fitted and no more problems for about 3 months. It did the same thing and another sensor fitted with the line " We have had a bad batch of sensors". that was in 2004 so I hope I have got a good one now. Just about everything else in the vehicle has been replaced anyway.