jeep cheroke 2006 ??????

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:52
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Considering purchasing a new jeep cheroke diesel 2.8

Has anybody out there own one or has one.Been 4wd in one. Any useful comments will be a help. No dealers
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Reply By: PBob - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:57

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 17:57
Take a D3 Disco for a spin. you will be amazed.
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew G (VIC) - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 18:02

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 18:02
d3? looked at looking at disco's right now td5 diesel or the other diesel priced well for 2002 models why are they relativly cheep? compared with landcrusiers and patrols. We intend to tow offroad van weiging in at 2000kl.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:16

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:16
2OOOK , van is a walk in the park!, for any disco or defender built in the last ten years to tow!. Reliabillity is no worse than anything else, just read past and present posts for a few weeks.

Cheers Axle
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Reply By: adamj1300 - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 18:25

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 18:25
Take a D3 Disco for a spin. you will be amazed

im sure he wants something with a it of Reliability with it! & it looks worse than the new hilux! & thats saying something
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Reply By: PBob - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:26

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:26
I didn't want to get into the usual argument from the Nispat and Tojo owners, however I knew that I would get a reaction from someone who just doesn't know. I'll bet any money that in 5 years time your Tojo or Nispat (and I have owned all of these) will be built with LRs features. Lets face it, Toyotas are good and tough generally speaking, however both Nissan and L/cruiser are now past their prime, with outdated diesel motors and the seating could never compare with Landrover. I have done 8,000km in 5 weeks in this new D3, it is a very good vehicle. It has excellent fuel economy, from 9.5 to 11ltrs per hundred Klm. It has a 6 speed box, and at 2500 revs is doing 150kmh! The finish is excellent. I drove a D2 TD5 from the Central West NSW to Longreach in a day and stepped out at the other end in time for a pub dinner feeling as fresh as you like. Go and check out the offroad capabilities of the new D3- you might change your mind.
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew G (VIC) - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:56

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:56
thanks pbob we will definitely go and check out td5 disco's cos our next 4by is our last....haha so i tell the handbreak....
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:57

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 19:57
Dinosaurs do come to mind as far as Toyotas and Nissans are concerned
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Follow Up By: Spike me - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 20:33

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 20:33
That is a new disco. Ask anyone that has put more than 20,000 on one and they will have a very different opinion. Try someone with 100,000 on it and get a much more hones answer.

I hear that Land Rover designed oil leaks as rust protection for the steel.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:37

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:37
garrycol posted this followup:

"Dinosaurs do come to mind as far as Toyotas and Nissans are concerned"

For the Nispats would say crocodiles.......living dinosoars, a design honed through millions of years of evolution. The Nissans basic design has not changed in the last 20 yrs or so, because it hasn't needed to. It's strong, reliable, and gets the job done. The Nissan 4.2D/TD is on its last legs due to the Euro IV regs.

It would be interesting to see how a Disco goes after 4 or 5 times around the clock....
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Reply By: adamj1300 - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 21:02

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 21:02
im sure it is a great vehicle from all reports, but with land rovers histroy & one of the articles i red whilst at the doctors in one of the 4wd mags, they took it for a test drive in out back conditions & & they had all sorts of electrical probs.
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Reply By: F4Phantom - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 21:52

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 21:52
From what I can tell japs vs LR have different ideas. Jap cars although we hear are tough and long lasting, I think are less serviceable than LR's. Obviously with LR being ford now their ideas of build could be different. LR do have electrical problems but in long term servicing I think a LR would beat jap cars. LR are happy to try new and different technology and in the case of the TD5, a car I would love to own, they had the option of a proper truck oil filter from the factory. An oil filter seller was raving about the quality of this engine based on the fact the designed in this feature which is unheard of from toyota and nissan as they just would not consider a feature like this on normal car, this is the key difference in philosophy between the designers. This shows in building the engine they wanted it to last. The old TD4 was a good engine too. I was speaking wth a LR specialist and it was his belief that the TD5 and 4 are run in properly at 200,000km. He says at this point the engine gives more power and better economy and this is the time to buy one. I know all diesels can last a long time but dont tell me a toyota or nissan engine will start to really give the best after 200,000km. I have a nissan diesel done 250,000, I recon it has some k's to go but I would not put it on the same level as a LR diesel. LR I think have thought that owners of their cars will not throw them out and buy a new one if it has an electrical problem, they may assume people will fix the car and keep driving it. With japs, they want any problem to be a warning sign and soon after you through it out and buy a new one. I hate this thinking hence and is why I am a LR fan.
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Follow Up By: Roddesh - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:14

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:14
So your point is that Land Rovers last longer because their owners are prepared to keep fixing them?

That's hilarious... :)

Rod.

80DX 298,000 K's
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:32

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:32
I am not going to back peddle. Its not exactly that way but not far from it either. I was watching a top gear program and they claim that around 50 % or all LR's are still on the road. Try to find another car make or model anywhere close to that figure and I will give you a rubber lamington to chew on. We all know english cars were not the most reliable cars, but they have always run with new ideas. EG rotating an engine 90 degrees. In the LR case using aluminium I believe is a key ingredient to having all their cars hanging around. When you see an old rusted car the last thing your gonna do is make it a project, it just to much hard work. But you see a LR from 1970 with clapped out engine, done a million miles and the body is good. You could rebuild it or in the case of a car with less years in the used market it the whole idea is just that much more appealing. I think this is one key point. (BTW the D3 is back to steel) I am not a fan of the 3.5L v8 petrols and LR were a bit lazy using them for so long as they used stacks of fuel and gave crap performance. The diesels tho are very good. So anyway if you have electrical probs, they are fixable, if your body is a rusted shell then good luck, so hilarious or not hilarious. FACTS MATE. One more thing, you try to get your car body fixed and 2 - 3k is not spending a lot, put that into an engine tho and it goes a long way. So Clapped out engine is cheap to get together but the body is where the big money is spent, this also backs LRs.
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Follow Up By: Roddesh - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 23:45

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 23:45
I do like facts... and I do like LR's (esp the early rangies).

It's just annoying when with each new model released they claim to have fixed all the problems that up to that point they denied existed on the previous model and when vehicles break down on test they're "pre-production" versions...

Re reliability:
Site Link

Re rust:
From www.eastcoastrover.com/FAQmis.html (LR specialists)

" A Land Rover is all aluminum, so I don't have to worry about rust when I buy one"
Wrong, big time wrong. As with most British cars of the period, rust is a major factor in a Land Rover. The frames rust out as do the bulkheads (firewalls). We also hear that people know the frames rust, but that everything else is alloy, so that won't be an issue as they plan a frame swap. This too is incorrect. The skin of a Land Rover door is alloy, but the structure that supports the door is all steel and very prone to rusting out. The leaf springs rust, the tub crossmembers rust, the door tops rust, etc. A Land Rover suffers from rust just like any other vehicle, maybe even a bit worse. If you are buying one, they all look great in pictures from the outside, but it is what is under the skin that counts. Go see it, crawl around under it, don't buy from pictures.

If I was after a project though I'd certainly look at a Landie.

See you out there.

Rod.
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:33

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:33
Rod, out of all this, you have provided some top information for this thread and very relevant. (not kidding this time)

"More woe was poured on under pressure car firms, Jaguar and Land Rover, after the manufacturers came second and third from bottom in a survey of vehicle reliability and cost of repair.

Only off-road specialist Jeep recorded worse results in the study of 30,000 vehicles from twenty-seven leading manufacturers. "

So to compare LR to a jeep? Jeeps are worse!! Now that is hilarious!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:42

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:42
I was watching a top gear program and they claim that around 50 % or all LR's are still on the road.

Incorrect - 98% of all LR's are still on the road.. the other 2% made it home...
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Follow Up By: Roddesh - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 13:16

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 13:16
Hey F4Phantom, I'm glad you like the info... I hope you don't think I was comparing LR's to Jeeps, I was just responding to your comparison of LR's with Jap vehicles. As I said, I do like LR's but I can't find anything at all to like about Jeeps.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 18:33

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 18:33
LOL Truckster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are liars, damned liars, and statistics.

Brilliant use of stats.............
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:17

Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 22:17
Shame you couldn't get some feedback from Jeep owners!

We owned the 3.7L V6 version in the states (they're called a Liberty there), and a friend has one here in Melbourne. We did a little offroad in it, nothing major - not enough to comment on it's offroad ability, but I don't think I've been anywhere in the Pajero yet I wouldn't have had a crack at in the Jeep. They could use a little more clearance however.

Onroad, it's fantastic, we found we filled the limited cargo space very quickly though when going away camping for the weekend. We would have bought another here except for the space issues. The petrols are very heavy on the consumption (the 3.5L Pajero uses less fuel), so the diesel would be the way to go.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:44

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:44
Wasnt there a thread last week from a miserable Jeep owner with viabrations or something that Jeep said " was normal "
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:09

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:09
Andrew.

Take no notice of the aforementioned replies to you question as the authors of same are a bunch of addicted self pleasurers.

As well as the Troopy I have the 05 KJ Cherrokee CRD limited, from new.

Other than a hiccup or two it is the 'antz pantz'.

SWMBO has a lot of reservations about upgrading 'her' honda accord to the KJ, however now wouldn't change it for anything else.

Take no notice of the outrageous replies this post will elicit from the 'pink nissan mafia' - namely Roachie, Truckster and Brew - as they are 4WD philistines with questionable IQ'S. Their mate BONZ is currentl O/S otherwise he would be giving his two bobs worth as well.

So if you like it and it fits your requirements - buy it. I do believe it is a better vehicle than the )% model due to a number of extras such as the fancy anti sway/swerve system etc.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 12:02

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 12:02
Did you ever find that engineers contact info.. u sent me a name but no #
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 17:12

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 17:12
Ooops! No

Have it now and will email immediately
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:15

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 10:15
Site Link

Site Link
just 2... try searching for more
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Reply By: kiesel - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 12:32

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 12:32
Have had a 05 2.8 crd for 6 mths.Very happy with no problems.Resent trip to Red Centre-Uluru-mereenie loop-Alice-Artlunga-Finke-Mt.Dare-Dalhousie-Oodnadatta track-- ave.10 lit./100klm,s ground clearance only problem .Previously had Cruiser ,Jackaroo,Courier & XJ Cherokee this best on & off road combo by far. Hope this helps.- cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew G (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 18:16

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 18:16
jeep is off the shopping list outrageous trade in allowance from mornington nissan\jeep will keep our pathy cu guys on the road thanks for the help
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