V8 conversion overheating?

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 23:08
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This is a question for those who have a V8 diesel conversion done to their 4WD. Mine has a Brunswick 6.2 and was done some 80,000km ago. It had been going fine, I mainly needed the extra grunt for towing a heavy trailer sailer.
However, on the last trip I had serious overheating problems, on the same trip last year (Perth -Shark Bay & ret.) no problemo. I gather the original radiator, which is now 16 years old has finally given up.
While talking to people about this they all seem to have 'heard' that Brunswick diesels have overheating problems. While mine ran fine with the original radiator, which was modified for the larger inlet/ outlet hoses, I am now wondering if I should replace it with a similar radiator or going for a bigger core?

A similar core is the cheapest option but I'm interested how others have solved this issue.

Klaus
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Reply By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 23:29

Thursday, Jul 06, 2006 at 23:29
I was just reading an add for Brunswicks and I think it says they have their own radiator shop now?
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 00:46

Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 00:46
"V8"

Is yours a turbo Chev? The turbos do have a slight tendency to overheat when towing in hot weather.

Mine is N/A and the guage never moves no matter how hard ya thrash it.

If yours has gone from no overheating to a serious overheating problem, then the original size rad should be OK for it. OR - you have another problem - head gasket? Unlikely. Blocked rad? - possible. Have you checked for something as simpe as flies/bugs/locusts jammed in the core?

Yes - Brunswicks now make thier own radiators. They didn't years ago, but they do now.

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: V8 Troopie - Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:04

Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:04
Thanks Bilbo,

There is no turbo, plenty of grunt in a 6.2 without the extra complexity of a turbo.
There is no overheating going at the speed limit on the freeway either, just when towing a heavy load.
Unfortunately I only tow on my holiday so I had no warning of the problem. Decided to turn back and investigate first. Replaced thermostats (2 in there) and waterpump, though either looked servicable. Had radiator out and thoroughly flushed it with a gaden hose, no bugs in the fins but the end fins started to perish which got me to the conclusion the radiator is on its way out.
BTW, I did my towing trip to Shark bay after the above investigation, driving to the thermometer. Doable if I stayed under 80kmh, just took a little longer - saved a bit of diesel though :-).
Interesting to read that Brunswick make their own radiators now, might give them a ring but its a long drive to see them. Does your radiator look any different from the standard one? Brunswick fitted an oil cooler in my troopie but used the original troopie radiator with a fixed blade fan.
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:10

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:10
Klaus,

As this problem has come from nowhere, all of a sudden, after all this time, I'd say it's a more complex prob than just the radiator. However, I hope I'm wrong.

My rad is not the standard rad. It's MUCH bigger than a normal Nissan Rad and was custom made by Brunswicks for the conversion. It's a 4 row monster made like a rad should be made - of brass and copper.

I'd hazard a guess that the standard Toyota rad is borderline for that 6.2 anyway.

Good luck

Bilbo
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Reply By: Member - uncle - Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:37

Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:37
Hey Bilbo,just spoke to a mate who has one of these grunters in his troopie now, he lives and works at Tom Price, reckons its awesome, also slightly better fuel eco too. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:02

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:02
Aaah- but "better" than what?

Mine's worse than my previous 100 seriesTD 'Cruiser - but better than an Abrams Tank!! (slightly)

aagghhhh - the cost of having fun eh!

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Member - uncle - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:12

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:12
He had an after market turbo on the 4.2 diesel that was in the troopy, from memory I think he was saying he gets around 100km more on a full tank now? Dont quote me on that , as we spoke about that many old times, as we hadn't seen each other for 12 years.
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Reply By: TroopyTracker - Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 09:24

Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 09:24
Klaus,
I'd give Brunswick a call. When I last spoke to them I was given a run down on their own radiator and it is very different to standard 75 series job. Was designed just for them to solve overheating problems and seems to do the job-have spoken to 2 people who are still suffering overheating though even with this new one, one N/A one turbo???

Still, only costs a phone call to get Brunswick's side of the story. If you're going to buy a new one you might as well buy their monster IMHO.

Matt
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Reply By: Topcat (WA) - Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 18:49

Friday, Jul 07, 2006 at 18:49
Hi V8 Troopie, I got my radiator upgraded to the one Brunswick manufacture when my Tojo original packed it in & have had no regets doing so. When pulling a load on the hills the temp gauge hardly moves & that is when the outside temp is pretty warm. They fitted it in a couple of hours & that was complete with a new fan cowling too. Well worth the investment. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: V8 Troopie - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 00:22

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 00:22
Thanks Topcat, I gave them a call to find out the cost. $917.65 was the reply which is a bit tough agains the $465.- quoted locally for a troopy radiator, especially for this newly retiree.

The funny thing is the original troopy radiator worked fine when pulling my boat (~3000kg all up) for the last 5 years and a long towing trip on each year. Even up Greenmount hill and later on the Adelaide hills. It just is getting too old 7 worn out for the job now.

Since I'm not planning another long trip for a few months I think this one over for a while. Thanks to all for the advice.
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Topcat (WA) - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 00:38

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 00:38
Gee talk about inflation. It only cost me $650 & that was 3 years ago!!!!!! Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:14

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:14
Yeah - but look at the price of copper these days! Go BHP. Go Rio Tinto!

BHP bought at $13.00

Rio Tinto bought at $10.80

Woodside bought at $2.40

NAB bought at 6.80

;)

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:22

Saturday, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:22
go my house I bought 8 years ago ;-)

Leroy
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