Queensland rego

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 00:25
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Can any banana benders here give me a few clues on swapping a queensland rego into my name without a residential address there? How do backpackers etc do it?
If I buy a car there to take interstate, Id like to swap ownership there then reregister at home as stamp duty is less than transferring at home?
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 00:48

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 00:48
I hope you get a positive reply - i think it has got easier since we bought our caravan.

The people we were buying it from inquired for us, and were given the run around with answers like it can't be done - they'll have to drive home without rego., before she got through to someone senior, who told her what to do. We then gave their address as our residential address, our home postal address for postal address, and that was fine (we did stay overnight in the van at their house). Are you buying privately or from a car yard?

You can talk to their transport department by email through their website.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 00:57

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 00:57
private or dealer, not sure yet, but cant seem to find what Im looking for over here. I'll ring them tomorrow maybe. What are the big papers in Bris, Syd and Mel for car selling, do you know?
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Follow Up By: Bill from Custom Boat Loaders- Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:53

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:53
We have just bought a caravan privately in Brisbane and are driving over to pick it up - as much for the trip as to save on transport costs. However we are hoping to do the same as far as the rego goes.

The people we are buying from have said they are happy to have their address shown as ours. So am I correct in saying that all we need to do is transfer it to our names at their address, put our Perth address as postal address and then we'll receive the renewal notices. Then when we are back home (we intend the return trip to take 4 - 6 weeks) transfer the plates to WA plates.

Does this negate the transfer fees? I sure hope this is correct as it really gets in my craw paying over $2000.00 for a change of ownership on a piece of paper!

Can someone please make this crystal clear as we leave at the end of this month.

Dian
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:17

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:17
Bill,

There is NO duty on caravans or trailers (including camper trailers) as they are exempt. check out the vehicle registration transfer application form from Qld Transport.

Relax in your caravan on the way home :-)

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:28

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:28
sorry.......only if a Qlder. Check your state legislation and your find out that is very similar. I would guess that trailers/caravans would be exempt in most states (though i don't know)

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 22:22

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 22:22
Dian, it cost me $17.50 transfer fee in Qld, no stamp duty on caravans over there. Yes, it sort of paid the cost of the trip on that alone. When we got back, I had to have it inspected at our licensing centre, fee inspection $53.40. I can't remember what we then paid - maybe only a new plate fee - definitely no stamp duty as the transfer had taken place in Qld.

We had a couple of dramas;

I was told i could hand the Qld plates in to my local authority (in this case it is our Shire office), or post them to Qld. I chose the former, and our local shire shredded the plates. They were told by Transport in Perth that putting the change of plates on the national database was sufficient to cancel the Q rego. They couldn't give me a rcpt as the system was down. Qld Transport got mean and nasty demanding return of plates, or the receipt as proof they were handed. The two Transport Depts would not talk to each other at all, so i have a wad of nasty letters from Qld, and sent a lot of screaming letters back. They gave up in the end. Send them the plates when you change over - it's not worth the time and energy.

They thought they could not pass it as the a frame was not stamped as rated - until they discovered it didn't have to be rated on a trailer of this size or something. They argued about whether the safety chains need to be high tensile not just the galvanised - before our local inspector finally got common sense to prevail and the licence went through. The galvanised safety chains worked when we needed them this year.

It seems you have everything organised, as with more and more people buying their caravans interstate, tales like mine will be unusual.

You can certainly save a heap buying vehicles in other states - check out the varying stamp duty on state transport dept web sites. Vehicles (like everything else) are usually cheaper in the east too. Crazy when we live in the same country.

Don't forget you will pass a number of fruit and vege quarantine stations - so be careful with your groceries.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 22:24

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 22:24
Andrew, Fish and Bill and Dian are buying in Qld, so there is no stamp duty so long as they get the transfer of ownership done in Qld, so your first post is correct.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 22:33

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 22:33
thanks MH :-)
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 23:17

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 23:17
just to clarify, there is stamp duty to be paid (on cars at least) but in Queensland it is 2% and WA 6.5% on "luxury" cars (over $40K) so a $50K car has a difference of around $2250 in Duty.
I'll let you all know how it goes anyway, in a couple of weeks time.
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Reply By: old mate - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:46

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:46
I don't mean to have a go, but have you tried ringing Queensland Transport?
They make the rules so they should be able to tell you what you need to know.
or have a look on their website.

Having said that, I bought a car in QLD to drive back to SA and was looking at the same scenario a few years back, got told that to register a car in QLD, you got to have a QLD licence. Same when I moved back to Brisbane and transfered my SA reg to QLD. If you can get away with it without the licence they will at least want to see proof of address, e.g. bank statement, rates notice or something.

Good Luck,

Let us know how you get on.
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Follow Up By: old mate - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:48

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:48
Saturdays Courier Mail or Trading Post for Brisbane.
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Follow Up By: old mate - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:49

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 07:49
By the way, will transport costs to get it home negate the stamp duty saving? Where are you taking the car to? Make sure the car comes with a safety certificate.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:40

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:40
regarding Qland Transport, I want to make sure I give them the right answers first!
Stamp Duty 2% Qland 6.5% WA, but there is stuffal available here at the moment anyway. Wouldnt do it just for the saving though. Transport $1200.
cheers Old mate
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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:17

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:17
You may have to forfeit the remainder of the QLD rego when you cancel the rego. So keep it registered in QLD until it's time ro renew.

R.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:26

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:26
My understanding is that one must be a Qld Transport Customer (be registered on their system) to register/transfer vehicles in Qld. You must provide adequate proof (ID) to be listed. Similar to the 100 point test , where drivers license, rates notice etc are required.

You may want to investigate the requirements in your state as you may require proof of ownership, previous registration details etc. I would be surprised if you can do what people are thinking of legally, ie. avoiding state duties by buying interstate. I would assume it would catch up with you eventually as this is not a new idea.

Just my thoughts

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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:42

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:42
In Queensland you must have a Queensland address (be a Queenslander ) to register a vehicle.
It is normal practice here for the vendor to lodge the transfer papers so that any breaches by new owner do not pass to the original owner if transfer papers not lodged as promised.

If you intend to move vehicle interstate you can get a permit that costs $18.95 a day.

For residents of Queensland if they own a vehicle with interstate plates they have 3 months to change them otherwise they are in breach of the law and their normal insurance and CTP can be made void.

This may apply in other states too so this angle may be worth checking.

As suggested above it might be best to check with Queensland Transport 13 23 80

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Reply By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 14:25

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 14:25
Here is the "ridgy didge" from Qland!
they will transfer it into someones name with an interstate address, but you sign a piece of paper to say you will transfer the state rego as soon as possible. Vehicle goes into your name and stamp duty is paid there in Qland (this is fairly new I understand) which makes sense for Qland as they get the stamp duty. Leftover rego is refunded on a prorata basis after returning plates.
It isnt illegal, quite common apparently for luxury car buyers in WA.
When it gets here you pay $60 for an inspection and also for the registration plus $19 for plates.
I rang Qland Transport twice to confirm.
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Follow Up By: Bill from Custom Boat Loaders- Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:43

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:43
The site to check how much it costs to transfer a vehicle in WA is here. I'm still not sure if this is payable

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The way I look at it is that if I buy a car for $50K in WA it costs me $3258.50 - if it costs me that much (or even a bit more) to drive to QLD and only pay a small amount in stamp duty, then I would rather do that.

That way I have the fun of seeing our country, spread spending the money in small country towns for the fuel, meals and accomodation etc than give it to the government burueacats in WA where the stamp duty was supposed to be abolished with GST.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 10:54

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 10:54
Bill everything that is advertised in the major newspapers goes on DRIVE.COM and CARSGUIDE.com nowadays. Queensland transfer is 2% WA6.5%. Truck to Perth 1215 from Qland. Will update next week on outcome.
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Reply By: old mate - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 15:17

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 15:17
Good onya! If you can beat the bastards, go for it!
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Reply By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 23:20

Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006 at 23:20
I'll repost the outcome in a few weeks, especially for all the WA'ites here.
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