Opal fuel

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:42
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Alice springs is changing over to opal fuel soon to deter the sniffers.
Does anyone know much about it?
eg. Do you use it up at the same rate as unleaded?
Does it burn with the same temp?
Do you get any drop in power?
Should you use any additives with it like you do with gas?
The council is keen to change over to it but no one seems to know anything about it.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Ross H (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 14:07

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 14:07
" Opal
Petrol sniffing is a serious issue for many remote Indigenous communities around Australia, resulting in death and permanent disability, particularly amongst young people.
Previously, BP was selling a fuel known as Comgas (a re-brand of Avgas), which was found to be useful in mitigating petrol sniffing. Comgas had very low levels of aromatics, which are what give the ‘high’ when sniffed. However, Comgas contained lead and was therefore not viewed as a sustainable solution by BP.

BP began to investigate whether an entirely new fuel option could be developed. Refinery staff from BP’s Kwinana Refinery developed a new unleaded fuel that met the specification of being both low in aromatics to discourage people sniffing, and suitable for use in motor vehicles and two-stroke engines requiring unleaded fuel.
What is Opal?
Thus Opal was introduced as an improvement to Comgas by removing the lead content and maintaining the same deterrent aspect. This means Opal is less harmful when sniffed and because it is unleaded, better for the environment. By removing the lead component, there are no corrosive products to damage engines and exhaust systems, meaning it is also better for engines.

This means Opal is less harmful when sniffed and because it is unleaded, better for the environment. By removing the lead component, there are no corrosive products to damage engines and exhaust systems, meaning it is also better for engines.

The resulting product was subjected to stringent performance, environmental, and toxicological assessment, before being released to the market. The first of its kind in the marketplace, Opal has been available in some communities since January 2005.

BP is continuing to act with the Federal Government and community groups to address petrol sniffing, as it is only one part of the solution to petrol sniffing. Anecdotal reports suggest that Opal has either lessened or significantly reduced petrol sniffing. BP is working alongside the Federal Government, who have funded an independent evaluation to check the impact of Opal on communities over time. "
regards ross
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Reply By: Troop-a-dour - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 14:56

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 14:56
I used Opal fuel on the Beadell Roads last year.
Fueled up with it at Warburton and Warakurna. Did not notice any difference in performance or consumption.
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Follow Up By: JJ - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 15:12

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 15:12
Australia : NT : Alice Springs
Monday, 10 July 2006. 19:08 (ACST)
BP assures motorists of Opal's safety

BP Australia has moved to reassure motorists they will not be putting their vehicles at risk if they use its non-sniffable Opal fuel.

The company already has Opal available from one service station in the centre of Alice Springs.

It is negotiating to stock Opal at its four other Alice Springs sites by the end of next month, following the Federal Government's announcement of extra subsidies for the fuel to help combat petrol sniffing.

BP spokesman Chandran Vigneswaren says the fuel is guaranteed to have no adverse impacts on motor vehicle seals.

"It's covered, like all of our fuels are, by what's called a BP fuels guarantee, which basically means that motorists should be confident that this fuel is suitable for use in all of their vehicles that currently use regular unleaded petrol," he said.

I also read that Mobil in A/Sps will be purchasing Opal from BP.
Will post article if/when I find it.
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 16:03

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 16:03
Hi Hairy,

Without going into details, the company I work for did the engine validation testing for BP in advance of OPAL release. You will not have any problems.

Hugh
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Reply By: mfewster - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 18:55

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 18:55
I think it is a waste of money. The problem isn't petrol, the problem is that there is absolutely nothing for the kids to do on most of the communities. There is no shortage of other substances available for the kids to blow their brains on if the petrol won't do it. The only answer is a total rethink about living conditions and the future for kids on the communities.
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Follow Up By: slammin - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 22:28

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 22:28
I can see what you're trying to say "prohibition isn't a solution" but Opal has had a terrific effect in a lot of communities. (Check out the footy results for this season, areal eye opener). No it's not a panacea wasn't meant to be but provides an opportunity for programmes to get up and running and to have an effect.

BP deserves full kudos for the money and time they have spent to get this up and going. They came out to see how they could help, they spoke to community people to see what they wanted, they didn't make any promises and the amazing part was that they followed through.

Been running it for +6 mths in mowers, motorbikes and the hilux no prob's. Supposed to be a slight decrease in economy but I am yet to notice it. The stuff smells pretty crook LOL. Additives ie, injector treatment, lead additives are no prob's either, same price as ULP and so far only avail. at the Macca's BP pump 1.

Bring it on.

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Reply By: Hairy - Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 22:56

Thursday, Jul 13, 2006 at 22:56
Thanks to everybody who replied.
Just a quick run down on me so you may understand the question a little more.
Ive lived in Alice for the past 18 years or so and lot of that time has been working on remote communities, I have taught in aboriginal education and have a lot of black fella mates. I understand the reason for opal fuel and wouldn't have a problem with it if someone who really knows more about it would come out and answer a few simple questions. I still cant get any stats on the product like.... do you get the same mileage out of a litre of opal as you would unleaded? what are the chemicals they have taken out and what were there purposes? If this fuel is so good and releases less emissions why doesn't the whole of Australia change over to it? etc. etc.etc
Over the years people in Alice have had so many law changes and rules put on us (like I'm sure the rest of the country has) which didn't solve a problem but still don't revert to the old way when they realise it wasn't the way to go. I'm getting a bit sceptical and think that we are about to cop another expense that probably wont fix the problem and will end up costing us all again!
I have emailed BP and they wont give me a straight answer to a couple of simple questions and I wonder why?
Thanks for your input but I have this horrible feeling that in a couple of years when cars start burning out valves or something BP will bring out an additive or something which will add to the already ridiculous price of fuel.
Well Ive had my bitch and Ill leave it at that!
Cheers All
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Reply By: mfewster - Friday, Jul 14, 2006 at 09:14

Friday, Jul 14, 2006 at 09:14
Hi Slammin and Hairy.
I remain cynical about the stuff. I also have worked in Alice and was head of the education unit in the prison, working with many sniffers. I want Opal to work, but think its a hell of a lot of money that still isn't addressing the causes of why sniffing happens. Unless the rollout is accompanied by real programs in the Communities, I just can't see how it can change things.

I sure agree with Slammin about the incredible power of AFL footy in the communities. A few years ago I tried to get interest in setting up some schools where developing footy skills would be a core part of the curriculum and connected to health and other community programs. The AFL was prepared to support it, but otherwise it fell on deaf ears. A similar approach is now reported to be working well in some parts of WA.
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