Starting your own 4x4 club ?

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 17:49
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Just curious as to how one would go about this. mainly interesting in starting one up so we can obtain keys to restricted areas for some 4x4 driving .

For this purpose would would be the minimum requirement ?

with more and more parks getting gated up- this may be the only other option.

any advice other than joining an already established 4x4 club ?

Boc
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Reply By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 18:10

Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 18:10
An idea of the location your in would be a start to giving advice on existing 4x4 clubs. To set up your own and to get the privileges you seek, the club would have to be affiliated with your states 4x4 association and have a constitution and rules etc etc. It's not a simple task at all
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 18:32

Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 18:32
.......... & public liability insurance!
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 08:20

Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 08:20
a simple constituion is available off the net ...check with state business cinsumer affairs...i came across it once...i could also send an electronic copy of one but you would need to change club info..not hard to do with word..just look for appropriate stuff and get word to replace automatically...club rules would need to be drafted as ours ...Gnomes Tossing and Spotting Club Inc. wont be a applicable
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Reply By: Member - Peter D M - Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 18:49

Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 18:49
hi boc
advice a bit hard to give as you hav'nt indicated where you are.
a basic affiliation/ insurance for a small cub would be at least $500 after you were recognised and accepted.
contact the secretary of your state association for their requirements.

regards peter
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Reply By: Philip A - Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 20:34

Thursday, Jul 20, 2006 at 20:34
And in NSW anyway registered with Dept Fair Trading which requires constitution.
Annual reports to Fair Trading are required, with minutes of Annual general meeting.
Insurance for committee members who are considered Directors, for liability purposes eg if some ahole crashes on a trip , then decides its all somebody else's fault..
Bank account with directors as signatories.
Regards Philip A
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Reply By: Robin - Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 08:59

Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 08:59
Find the club scene a bit tricky, and first question
would be "what is the motivation" for joining a club.

The bottom line here in Victoria is that there is not much
if you already have a group of friends you drive with.
In which case loose associations via groups like this
is often enough.

Different if you are new, have no experience etc.

Am in a small vic club (Alexandra) myself which is
only just viable with about 10 members and charges
$50 bucks a year which just covers Vic association fees
and insurance.
We may even disaffiliate as fees to high and still run club.

Meetings just at friends houses infrequently and only take 5-10
minutes to follow right practise and keep minutes.

While there is not much need in Vic today, I think it important for
every single person to be in a club, even nominally as its really
in the end a numbers game re-keeping tracks open.

The club name does have some advantages and disadvantages, for example
in Vic we have some management only tracks with a theoretical access for some clubs.

In practise the system is effectively de-funct as I put it to the test.

Fun to watch officals trying to find out how to do something they had
never done but which there guidlines said they could do.

Bottom line was that we were left to our own devices and legally got to
go onto some tracks normally off limits.

Disadvantages include many clubs try to stick to legal forms placed apon them
by beaucrats, and become beaucratic over time themselves.

An example of this was recent need to Vic to clear up tracks following storms.

Cutting this short - I have literally cut down in excess of a thousand trees
blocking roads due to work etc over a long time in bush, but was unable
to help with clean up due to lack of current "chainsaw training" by those
who quite frankly had never had ,and admitted to such, the necessary experience.

So there's pluses and minuses.

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 21:07

Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 21:07
Gaday Robin. I think it is only that Victoria has a strong club base with a forward thinking association that has kept the number of tracks open that we have. The biggest 'Plus' is the current agreement with Parks to consult the 4x4 Association before any maintenance or track closure is done. Pity they don't have a similar agreement in Qld as post 36091 describes another track closure without consultation.
As unfortunate as the situation was with last years track clearing crews only allowing qualified chainsaw opperators, Parks really had no option with no other way to measure experience than by some proper accreditation. Our club were in the same boat with plenty of unqualified but experienced farmers & only 3 with certificates. This didn't really matter in the end as it would have been dangerous to be running more than 2 saws at once & we needed a dozen offsiders to do all the winching & clearing.
Cheers Craig...........
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:50

Friday, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:50
Starting a club for the reasons you mention is very expensive, and there are 100's of clubs already...

Why not join one that is already there?
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